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Créé par: RedWings35
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 10 juin 2023
Publié: 10 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
77 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 750 000 $
25 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Werenski, Zachary
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
Werenski obviously moves his trade clause for Detroit. Columbus adding the Defence they did is taking another route
CBJ
  1. Fabbri, Robby
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Draft night trade
2024 first is top 10 protected
2.
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
OTT
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
  2. Sebrango, Donovan
  3. Zadina, Filip
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
3.
DET
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
4.
DET
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Cap dump plus pickup cheaper alternative
EDM
  1. Veleno, Joseph [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2083 500 000 $80 818 055 $0 $5 257 500 $2 681 945 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
905 833 $905 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG
RFA - 3
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
C
RFA - 3
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
9 583 333 $9 583 333 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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10 juin 2023 à 19 h 11
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It'll take more to get Werenski. I doubt he's available. Babs will play the living snot out of him. "Realgud player. Plays hard. Puts his foot on the gas and plays a full 60."
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10 juin 2023 à 19 h 15
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This is not even close to realistic
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10 juin 2023 à 19 h 20
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Ottawa paid a 3rd and a 4th last offseason to unload two years of Murray with a little money retained. In no world does the cost of unloading Murray with now only one year left jump to a 1st (regardless of the 4th coming back). MAYBE a 3rd if Toronto is feeling desperate but that return on one year left at under 5m isnt realistic.

By the same token the return on Debrincat isn't realistic at all. A future 1st, as opposed to one this year when you own two, and a a handful of players that don't really move the needle. Hard pass.
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10 juin 2023 à 19 h 33
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The title of this post is classic.
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10 juin 2023 à 19 h 48
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Foegele isn't cap dump. You guys aren't even using the F'n term right
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10 juin 2023 à 19 h 50
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Congrats, you are the 1 millionth poster to propose Matt Murray and the Leafs first for basically nothing.
10 juin 2023 à 19 h 51
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Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
Ottawa paid a 3rd and a 4th last offseason to unload two years of Murray with a little money retained. In no world does the cost of unloading Murray with now only one year left jump to a 1st (regardless of the 4th coming back). MAYBE a 3rd if Toronto is feeling desperate but that return on one year left at under 5m isnt realistic.

By the same token the return on Debrincat isn't realistic at all. A future 1st, as opposed to one this year when you own two, and a a handful of players that don't really move the needle. Hard pass.


Well Toronto needs cap space and they are still a contender so there is a premium added to get that cap space. Now I have no idea why Detroit fans are still adding LHDs to DeBrincat trades when Detroit is the only team that needs LHDs less than Ottawa. But no team is paying more for DeBrincat than Ottawa did last year when he had a down year. Now thats just common sense.
10 juin 2023 à 19 h 52
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Quoting: OilednGreasy
Foegele isn't cap dump. You guys aren't even using the F'n term right, shut up


He was very good in the playoffs. He was kinda meh for a while with Edmonton, but his recent play was very good. Some teams are probably regretting they didn’t pick him up for nothing when they had the chance.
10 juin 2023 à 21 h 30
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I thought that DeBrincat trade would work for me but I'm kinda not sure anymore

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Kubalik - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Joseph
Crookshank - Kastelic - Zadina
Kelly

Kubalik and Zadina 2-way games are not really what the Sens need, they need to become better 5v5

Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
Ottawa paid a 3rd and a 4th last offseason to unload two years of Murray with a little money retained.


It was a 3rd + 7th actually

Quoting: aedoran
I have no idea why Detroit fans are still adding LHDs to DeBrincat trades when Detroit is the only team that needs LHDs less than Ottawa.


I found that comment a bit weird "Less than Ottawa"

I mean Chabot + Sanderson + Chychrun + Brannstrom + Kleven

I mean, Walman + Maatta + Edvinsson + Chiarot are not in the same stratosphere
11 juin 2023 à 19 h 29
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Quoting: aedoran
Well Toronto needs cap space and they are still a contender so there is a premium added to get that cap space. Now I have no idea why Detroit fans are still adding LHDs to DeBrincat trades when Detroit is the only team that needs LHDs less than Ottawa. But no team is paying more for DeBrincat than Ottawa did last year when he had a down year. Now thats just common sense.


66 points is his third highest point total for a year, he had a slight down year for goals but also put up a career high in assists. All of this while trying to form chemistry with a new team after the first time in his life that he's been traded. "Down year" doesnt paint the whole picture.

Neither does the idea that Ottawa should automatically get less than they paid. The trade was considered a steal when it happened, why would they help facilitate an even bigger steal for someone else? Especially when a 8 year extension is attached to the trade compared to Ottawa acquiring him on an expiring deal with an even higher qualifying offer one year before free agency. If anything facilitating an extension a la Matthew Tkachuk last year would increase the value compared to when Ottawa acquired him and is definitely more than enough to offset the perceived lost value from a "down year".
11 juin 2023 à 23 h 47
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Quoting: Newtown
He was very good in the playoffs. He was kinda meh for a while with Edmonton, but his recent play was very good. Some teams are probably regretting they didn’t pick him up for nothing when they had the chance.


First season on a new team kinda thing I think and what I pray was Campbells issue too lol
11 juin 2023 à 23 h 51
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Quoting: OilednGreasy
First season on a new team kinda thing I think and what I pray was Campbells issue too lol


Campbell was better than Skinner in the playoffs but by that time the coaching staff had lost all faith in him. He’s not 6 foot 5 like Skinner and doesn’t look all that imposing in the net — something the coaching staff will need to get over if they are going to ever have confidence in him again.
12 juin 2023 à 11 h 44
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Quoting: OilednGreasy
Foegele isn't cap dump. You guys aren't even using the F'n term right, shut up


Your wife must love when you’re home.
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 9
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Your wife must love when you’re home.


Why are you bringing up my family?
 
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