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0 excuse to not pick michkov

Créé par: JeffGorton
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 8 juin 2023
Publié: 8 juin 2023
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If I had a choice, id fire Hughes and force Molson to sell the team if you do not get one of Fanitlli or Michkov in this draft. Trade up to #3 and grab whoever Anaheim doesnt pick between them 2.
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MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
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  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
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That should be more than enough to move up from #5 to #3

And Columbus would do this because either way they get Carlsson or Smith at center

Columbus also wants a top 6 winger, so maybe instead of the 32nd pick you put Anderson. I bet Babcock would love a big Canadian boy
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  1. Faksa, Radek
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  1. Armia, Joel
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  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
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  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. Ylönen, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
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This trade probably doesnt happen as WSH want a pick this draft but I think the value is fine

Im using the vlaue from the Romanov trade as comparission. Harris is better than Romanov now than when Romanov was traded but the pick is way more valuable so I added a 2025 1st which would have the 'the lowest of 1st rounders' condition added to it

Id also only do this trade if Benson is available at #8, if not then you can try this trade but instead of the 1st you add the COL 2024 2nd for the 14th pick from Pittsburgh
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MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
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IDGAF where but as long the Habs get a 5th rounder
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Evans, Jake
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 16
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That's not enough to get 3 and where do you get the idea that the Jackets want a top 6 winger?
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The value isn’t fine at all
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 17
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That's not enough to get 3 and where do you get the idea that the Jackets want a top 6 winger?


Its being reported everywhere after the Provorov trade and how is that not enough to move up 2 spots and still get the player they ultimately want in Smith or Carlsson
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 20
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The value isn’t fine at all


Top 20 pick, very good LHD whos only 23 and signed for 2 seasons cheap (can also play the RHD) and a bottom 6 winger whos gonna be very cheap and responsible defensively, booming shot and can play on either wing. Its everything WSH needs
8 juin 2023 à 11 h 20
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Habs are not picking Mitchkov. Even if they acquire the third overall.
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Its being reported everywhere after the Provorov trade and how is that not enough to move up 2 spots and still get the player they ultimately want in Smith or Carlsson


1. It's being reported that Jarmo wants to make more moves. It's largely expected that those moves are for a top 6 *center* and/or another veteran defenseman

2. It's not enough to move up 2 spots because at 3 the Jackets have their choice of who they want, but at 5 they have to wait and see what Montreal and San Jose do. 3 OA is available for a u25 1C that can be signed long term.
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Top 20 pick, very good LHD whos only 23 and signed for 2 seasons cheap (can also play the RHD) and a bottom 6 winger whos gonna be very cheap and responsible defensively, booming shot and can play on either wing. Its everything WSH needs


No, it absolutely isn't. I don't know how you can even look at this and think it's even close to fine. That 2025 pick won't make an NHL impact until 2027 at earliest. By the time they're making that pick, the 2023 pick will be an NHL regular. If Harris and Ylonen are that good in your eyes, keep them. Caps don't want or need them. The trade is horrid for Washington.
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 27
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1. It's being reported that Jarmo wants to make more moves. It's largely expected that those moves are for a top 6 *center* and/or another veteran defenseman

2. It's not enough to move up 2 spots because at 3 the Jackets have their choice of who they want, but at 5 they have to wait and see what Montreal and San Jose do. 3 OA is available for a u25 1C that can be signed long term.


So for this post I say the Habs take Michkov at 3, that means San Jose has an option at Carlsson or Smith. Using common sense, the jackets at 5 (because 4 is before 5) get the other one. And guess that, its a Center either way and they are both same level of player. So the jackets gets a free 1st rounder and 3rd and still get what they want.
8 juin 2023 à 11 h 28
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No from Winnipeg.
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No, it absolutely isn't. I don't know how you can even look at this and think it's even close to fine. That 2025 pick won't make an NHL impact until 2027 at earliest. By the time they're making that pick, the 2023 pick will be an NHL regular. If Harris and Ylonen are that good in your eyes, keep them. Caps don't want or need them. The trade is horrid for Washington.


If only you could do something with said pick, idk like a trade to get that center yall need. And right now, WSH needs a good LHD since they only have Sandin. Harris is better two way than Sandin, younger and clear of anyone else in your system. Caps need quantity, not quality if they want to be in any way competitive in Ovi's last years
8 juin 2023 à 11 h 31
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You could not pay me to take Edmundson.


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So for this post I say the Habs take Michkov at 3, that means San Jose has an option at Carlsson or Smith. Using common sense, the jackets at 5 (because 4 is before 5) get the other one. And guess that, its a Center either way and they are both same level of player. So the jackets gets a free 1st rounder and 3rd and still get what they want.


Not good enough to pass on having a choice between the two. Frankly, Carlsson is a far superior prospect too and I don't think it's a guarantee that Anaheim takes Fantilli. So they're trading down from a guarantee of either Fantilli or Carlsson to almost assuredly getting Will Smith, if they even have him in the top 5 on their board. Also, if you're so certain the Jackets and Sharks are going with centers, why do you even bother trading up?
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Top 20 pick, very good LHD whos only 23 and signed for 2 seasons cheap (can also play the RHD) and a bottom 6 winger whos gonna be very cheap and responsible defensively, booming shot and can play on either wing. Its everything WSH needs


The Caps needs are top 6 wingers (and possibly a top 6 center if Kuzy is moved) to help them compete while Ovie is still here. They have 3 young LD in Sandin, Fehervary, and Alexeyev, and more 3rd line wingers than they have spots to put them. A distant 1st, a young LD, and a 3rd line winger are all things the Caps *don't* need.
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 31
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Habs are not picking Mitchkov. Even if they acquire the third overall.


Thank you for your intelligent response to my hypothetical armchair gm
8 juin 2023 à 11 h 41
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Its being reported everywhere after the Provorov trade and how is that not enough to move up 2 spots and still get the player they ultimately want in Smith or Carlsson


Let's skip over arguing about whatever perceived value Anderson may or may not have...The quickest way to look at this is to recall the fact that he requested a trade out of Columbus while he was there, and the GM at the time is the same one who is there now.

Really no reason for the Jackets not to take whichever of Fantilli (Ducks better take him!!!) or Carlsson at 3OA. Fills a big long-term need for them. Michkov *should* be there at 5OA, which will be absolute theft, since San Jose *likely* takes Smith.
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If only you could do something with said pick, idk like a trade to get that center yall need. And right now, WSH needs a good LHD since they only have Sandin. Harris is better two way than Sandin, younger and clear of anyone else in your system. Caps need quantity, not quality if they want to be in any way competitive in Ovi's last years


Dude, you clearly do not know anything about the caps roster or their situation right now. This is a garbage trade and it isn't happening.
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 49
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No pick in the top 3 is getting moved

Just accept that fact already
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 54
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Top 20 pick, very good LHD whos only 23 and signed for 2 seasons cheap (can also play the RHD) and a bottom 6 winger whos gonna be very cheap and responsible defensively, booming shot and can play on either wing. Its everything WSH needs


For an 8oa pick. What we need is a high end young talent that we can pick in the top 10. We don’t need lds,

Marty Fer Sandin Alexyev, and we don’t need any young bottom six guys. We have enough of those
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8 juin 2023 à 12 h 1
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Quoting: JeffGorton
If only you could do something with said pick, idk like a trade to get that center yall need. And right now, WSH needs a good LHD since they only have Sandin. Harris is better two way than Sandin, younger and clear of anyone else in your system. Caps need quantity, not quality if they want to be in any way competitive in Ovi's last years


hahahah you have no idea what you are talking about. I second everything Caps fans said above.

This trade is absolutely horrible and not close on value.
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8 juin 2023 à 13 h 10
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