Quoting: dgibb10
Pick 31 does not come close to equalling pick 13. You're another late 1st short there. And again, Dach had significantly less pedigree AND production than Laffy.
Struble would not garner a 3rd. Edmundson without retention is a cap dump just like Goodrow, but We'll go with Edmundson +eating goodrow +struble=3rd if you want
So you need another 1st or 1st of value to equal the dach offer, and again significantly more because Laff is much more productive and has more pedigree than dach did
what is more productive for you ?? because if you compare both player Dach / Laffy you could say they are pretty much similar.
dach
19 - 20 // 64 / 8 + 15 = 23 -1
20 - 21 // 18 / 2 + 8 = 10 -3
21 - 22 // 70 / 9 + 17 = 26 -18
Laffy
20 - 21 // 56 / 12 + 9 = 21 -7
21 - 22 // 79 / 19 + 12 = 31 2
Playoff // 20 / 2 + 7 = 9 -3
if you want to take into consideration 22-23
Dach: 58 / 14 + 24 = 38 -2
Laffy: 81 / 16 + 23 = 39 10
playoffs 7 / 0 + 0 = 0 0
Dach would have produce more if it was not about is injury he got that stop him playing the 20-21 season. its even more close when you compare this year 38 versus 39 points. The only big difference between both in 22-23 is that laffy is +10 but that could be easily be explain by the fact Ranger was an better team then Habs. You could even argue that Dach would have perform better if he could have made the 82 match over the 58 he play.
Quoting: MoxNix
IOW you agree Struble and a 1st would probably be enough to get him. I never said he was worth that just that it would probably be enough to get him.
That's a load of you know what. He might not be worth a first but he'd fetch more than you claim.
LOL You have it backwards. Goodrow has more value than Edmundson who is broken down washed up and has negative value. In addition the 31st/32nd OA pick Montreal got from Florida doesn't have near the same value as the 13th OA pick Montreal gave Chicago for Dach.
While Edmundson did have is injury history, he still a good defensemen and add the fact is contract is for one year only. I will give you the points that he will be trade with 50% retain salary which is 1.750m.
on the other side Goodrow have be okay in season for NYR for the last two year but when playoffs come he's out. In playoffs with NYR he got a record of 16 GP 1 G 1 A = 2 PTS and -3. that not a good deal for 3.6m over the next 4 years and that a negative value here.
Another thing to take into consideration, NYR have around 11 to 12m cap space and they have Tarasanko, P. Kane, K, A Miller , Laffy and a backup goaltender to resign.
lets just say Laffy doing an contract like Dach 3.3m for the next 3 years Next you want to resign K.A Miller to an average of 5 to 6m that leave you with 2.7m available to acquire 3 forward, 1 defensemen and one backup goalie. If one of the Minor Goalie is ready to backup then its league minimum and save you money but its still over 3 to 4 spot need to be fill with 2.7m to play with.
P.Kane if he want to rest in NYR would probably need to take less salary so maybe around an 3 to 6m again. I dont see how NYR could resign everyone with that much money they have.
so doing an trade of Goodrow for Edmundson 50% retain could be one way to help with the cap salary and keep better player like P.Kane + Tarasanko into the team at the cost of a guys like Laffy maybe.