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Realistic 2023 Offseason

Créé par: TheRealisticGuy
Équipe: 2023-24 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 2 juin 2023
Publié: 2 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
35 000 000 $
22 500 000 $
1875 000 $
2812 500 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1850 000 $
2800 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Guentzel, Jake
  2. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
Détails additionnels:
PIT add a player due to Guentzel higher cap hit
No extension in place
PIT
  1. Beaucage, Alex
  2. Toews, Devon
Détails additionnels:
Avs add a C prospect to balance the trade
No extension in place
2.
COL
  1. Hayes, Kevin (3 571 428 $ retained)
3.
MTL
    Waivers
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2023
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    2024
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    2025
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2383 500 000 $77 835 001 $637 500 $57 500 $5 664 999 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    12 600 000 $12 600 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    1 $1 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
    AD, C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 4
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    812 500 $812 500 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    847 500 $847 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
    C
    RFA - 2
    850 000 $850 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    825 000 $825 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    800 000 $800 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    987 500 $987 500 $
    DG/DD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    775 000 $775 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    775 000 $775 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2

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    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 24
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    I really dont like the Toews trade, he is way too important to the team

    I think PHI would want quite a bit more for Hayes 50% retained
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    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 24
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    I don't think Pittsburgh accept. And I seriously doubt that Montreal put Pitlick on waiver again. But I could be wrong
    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 30
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    I don't think Pittsburgh accept. And I seriously doubt that Montreal put Pitlick on waiver again. But I could be wrong


    RHP-Suzuki-Caufield
    Slafkovsky-Dach-Anderson
    Hoffman-Dvorak-Gallagher
    Pezzetta-Evans-Armia
    Ylonen

    Guhle-Savard
    Matheson-Barron
    Harris-Edmundson
    Xhekaj
    Kovacevic

    So Pitlick & Wideman could be waived IF no one is moved
    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 32
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    Quoting: UpsideDownQue
    I really dont like the Toews trade, he is way too important to the team

    I think PHI would want quite a bit more for Hayes 50% retained


    Fair trade tho, but I understand if you don't like it

    For Hayes, I agree that it would take more than a former 1st rounder, but what more ? A top 10 2024 1st round pick ? Sean Behrens ?
    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 36
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    RHP-Suzuki-Caufield
    Slafkovsky-Dach-Anderson
    Hoffman-Dvorak-Gallagher
    Pezzetta-Evans-Armia
    Ylonen

    Guhle-Savard
    Matheson-Barron
    Harris-Edmundson
    Xhekaj
    Kovacevic

    So Pitlick & Wideman could be waived IF no one is moved


    I would say pitlick being waived is a pretty safe bet. He was passed on the depth chart by RHP and ylonen
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    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 37
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    Quoting: UpsideDownQue
    I really dont like the Toews trade, he is way too important to the team

    I think PHI would want quite a bit more for Hayes 50% retained


    If the avs are trading toews I doubt it's for a rental. May as well use him as a own rental if managment doesn't think they can re-sign him. If were trading him it's for a player(s) we have control over for several years.
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    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 39
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    No way the Pens make that trade.. Guentzel is the best pure goal scorer they have on the team. I believe Dubas extends his contract. They also have zero LW depth after him too.
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    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 51
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    Quoting: Pens_Nation
    No way the Pens make that trade.. Guentzel is the best pure goal scorer they have on the team. I believe Dubas extends his contract. They also have zero LW depth after him too.


    The disrespect on my guy Ryan Poehling, but Zucker will probably be back and they could sign one of Barbashev or Bertuzzi
    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 52
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    If the avs are trading toews I doubt it's for a rental. May as well use him as a own rental if managment doesn't think they can re-sign him. If were trading him it's for a player(s) we have control over for several years.


    Dude, why would a team trade a player with terms for rental Toews ... because that team probably can't afford Toews past this incoming season
    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 54
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    Dude, why would a team trade a player with terms for rental Toews ... because that team probably can't afford Toews past this incoming season


    That's why the avs would rather just keep him. I'm not saying he's likely to be moved but stay with colorado. Why would the avs move their second best dman when Giraid is inconsitant and Byram is injury prone. Only way they move Toews is for a player with term.
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    2 juin 2023 à 15 h 58
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    Quoting: Josh4
    That's why the avs would rather just keep him. I'm not saying he's likely to be moved but stay with colorado. Why would the avs move their second best dman when Giraid is inconsitant and Byram is injury prone. Only way they move Toews is for a player with term.


    Because IMO they need more help up front then on the back-end
    You disagree and I don't think you are wrong, and Toews probably won't be move
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    2 juin 2023 à 16 h 2
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    Fair trade tho, but I understand if you don't like it

    For Hayes, I agree that it would take more than a former 1st rounder, but what more ? A top 10 2024 1st round pick ? Sean Behrens ?


    Behrens or a 2nd would do probably
    2 juin 2023 à 16 h 32
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    For Hayes I think you lower the retention by a 10-15% or add a solid propect or 2nd and they'd probably take it.
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    2 juin 2023 à 16 h 44
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    The disrespect on my guy Ryan Poehling, but Zucker will probably be back and they could sign one of Barbashev or Bertuzzi


    I like Poehling, he’s got the one thing the Penguins need: speed.. just have to work on his hands. He had a number of clear breakaways that he was unable to finish. Reminds me of a young Pascal Dupuis!
    I think they move on from Zucker, I loved his energy but he’s going to cash in, he earned a big paycheck this year and I don’t think Dubas ponies up. Bertuzzi’s going to sign an inflated contract somewhere. I want Dubas to go after Barbashev, really enjoying his play and I think he fits a need the team has.
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    2 juin 2023 à 19 h 37
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    Because IMO they need more help up front then on the back-end
    You disagree and I don't think you are wrong, and Toews probably won't be move


    The defence is to injury prone imo to move toews unless it's addressing our biggest need which is centre. If the avs got hayes and feel he's the 2C then I'd think they keep toews over trading him for Guentzel. If they don't have a 2C i think trading toews for somone like scheifele makes sense. (I'm also bias and very high on toews).
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    2 juin 2023 à 22 h 15
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    Quick and easy no for the Avs. You don't trade top 10 D for a wing if you're smart especially in a straight rental swap and adding cap when you're up against it.
    5 juin 2023 à 18 h 9
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    Quoting: Pens_Nation
    No way the Pens make that trade.. Guentzel is the best pure goal scorer they have on the team. I believe Dubas extends his contract. They also have zero LW depth after him too.


    We also don't have any elite puck moving-D besides Letang. We struggled badly with exits/entries from the D last year and barely any of our D were mobile. It is way way easier to find a legit 1st line winger than a legit 1D. That's why I take this trade.
    5 juin 2023 à 21 h 9
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    Quoting: pensfan21
    We also don't have any elite puck moving-D besides Letang. We struggled badly with exits/entries from the D last year and barely any of our D were mobile. It is way way easier to find a legit 1st line winger than a legit 1D. That's why I take this trade.


    Understand the logic but perennial 40 goal scorers that we know click with the playing styles of both of your star centers aren’t available out there at a gettable price. There are some good puck moving defenseman out there that won’t cost the farm to obtain.
    6 juin 2023 à 1 h 39
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    Quoting: Pens_Nation
    Understand the logic but perennial 40 goal scorers that we know click with the playing styles of both of your star centers aren’t available out there at a gettable price. There are some good puck moving defenseman out there that won’t cost the farm to obtain.


    Which puck moving D? Not disagreeing just curious because it's a huge need
     
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