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Créé par: Howie

Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg

Date de création initiale: 2 juin 2023

Publié: 2 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

What's wheeler worth?
He has 1 year at 8.25m for 1 last year and has a 5 team trade list. He could block trades to not those 5 teams but could have a better chance to have playoff. He still a good 50-60 point winger that can play a good playmaking role while 6'5.

Yes he has the leadership concerns and is valid but going to a new team where he doesn't have to be that kind of player in the room. It's not for a long time and could be useful if he can go to a team with a great captain.

I picked 5 teams that may not be his 5 team trade list but maybe takes a shot at him. So what is he worth and the difference between 50% retained or not. Definitely not expecting a boat load return but also he does have some value and would still be a good player on some teams.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

CRÉÉ	ANS	CAP HIT
Wheeler, Blake	1	8 250 000 $
Wheeler, Blake	1	8 250 000 $
Wheeler, Blake	1	8 250 000 $
Wheeler, Blake	1	8 250 000 $

Transactions

WPG

DET

Wheeler, Blake (4 125 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Would Detroit want a veteran playmaker for a year?

WPG

COL

Wheeler, Blake (4 125 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Colorado lost Landeskog for a year and don't know what's happening with Nichushkin. Could come in and be a great middle six guy and shouldn't cost as much as other options with the avs limited prospect pool

WPG

OTT

Wheeler, Blake (4 125 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

With the uncertainty around DeBrincat bringing in a cheap replacement for the 2nd line in wheeler could be nice and allow for norris and batherson to get top pp time. Only 1 year and could maybe be a good cheap bet

WPG

TOR

Wheeler, Blake (4 125 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Toronto may be trading some key players and bringing in wheeler may not be ideal the cheapish price may be a good replacement in a middle six role for a player they may lose

WPG

CAR

Wheeler, Blake (4 125 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

With carolina seems like they need a middle six replacement for some players like fast. He could be a cheap pickup and sure may be a rental but similar to ghost a cheap price for an impact greater than the cost

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Blake Wheeler: 4 125 000 $ (515.63%)
Blake Wheeler: 4 125 000 $ (50%)
Blake Wheeler: 4 125 000 $ (50%)
Blake Wheeler: 4 125 000 $ (50%)
Blake Wheeler: 4 125 000 $ (50%)

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
14	83 500 000 $	82 882 858 $	0 $	850 000 $	617 142 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
	Scheifele, Mark 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1
Connor, Kyle 7 142 857 $7 142 857 $ AG UFA - 3	Lowry, Adam 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Ehlers, Nikolaj 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2
Niederreiter, Nino 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Gustafsson, David 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1		Appleton, Mason 2 166 667 $2 166 667 $ AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Morrissey, Joshua 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Pionk, Neal 5 875 000 $5 875 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2
Schmidt, Nate 5 950 000 $5 950 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	DeMelo, Dylan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Hellebuyck, Connor 6 166 667 $6 166 667 $ G NMC UFA - 1
Dillon, Brenden 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Capobianco, Kyle 762 500 $762 500 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Perfetti, Cole 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, C RFA - 1

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 3

buffbry9108

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I can see det doing it for 50% retained and if there was compensation coming back to take him

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 5

njlaforte

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At 50% retained he has to be worth a mid-round pick (3rd-4th) or a solid prospect. Just thinking about the Pens and them still wanting to contend. What about Wheeler 50% for Granlund and 14? They want to move Granlund. Maybe you can't get 14 so instead a 2nd and prospect.

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 5

DirtyDangles

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IMO, he'd have to go somewhere with a very strong leadership group as he seems to be one of the main problems in WPG. At 50%, maybe a 2nd, maybe a 2nd + prospect

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2 juin 2023 à 10 h 6

Howie

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Quoting: buffbry9108

I can see det doing it for 50% retained and if there was compensation coming back to take him

Then nope. At 50% the jets are likely able to get something back albeit might not be a lot

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2 juin 2023 à 10 h 6

njlaforte

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Quoting: buffbry9108

I can see det doing it for 50% retained and if there was compensation coming back to take him

If the Jets have to retain then they will need something back. They won't retain and send an asset with him, they would rather just let him ride out the contract in WPG.

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 6

Claesson4Norris

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Keep Blake Wheeler as far away from the Sens locker room as possible

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2 juin 2023 à 10 h 7

Howie

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Quoting: DirtyDangles

IMO, he'd have to go somewhere with a very strong leadership group as he seems to be one of the main problems in WPG. At 50%, maybe a 2nd, maybe a 2nd + prospect

Pittsburgh would be a great spot with crosby but I doubt they want to get older

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 7

njlaforte

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Quoting: DirtyDangles

IMO, he'd have to go somewhere with a very strong leadership group as he seems to be one of the main problems in WPG. At 50%, maybe a 2nd, maybe a 2nd + prospect

I like your thinking! Doubt we get back anything better than a 3rd.

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 8

sensonfire

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IMO, Wheeler is worth a 2nd round pick if Winnipeg retains half his salary.

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 8

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Keep Blake Wheeler as far away from the Sens locker room as possible

Like I said I just guessed 5 teams that "could maybe use him" It's not me saying it should happen. Just Imagine it's Pittsburgh instead then lol

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 8

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buffbry9108

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Quoting: Howie

Then nope. At 50% the jets are likely able to get something back albeit might not be a lot

Ok wings not a fit, easy

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 9

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buffbry9108

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Quoting: njlaforte

If the Jets have to retain then they will need something back. They won't retain and send an asset with him, they would rather just let him ride out the contract in WPG.

No problem, wings not a fit

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 9

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Howie

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Quoting: sensonfire

IMO, Wheeler is worth a 2nd round pick if Winnipeg retains half his salary.

Yeah maybe a 3rd and 7th. I'm not expecting a massive return but it's better than getting nothing

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2 juin 2023 à 10 h 10

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njlaforte

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Quoting: buffbry9108

No problem, wings not a fit

I don't see them as a fit. They already got some vets like Copp and Perron. They are building something great and don't need a wheeler.

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2 juin 2023 à 10 h 12

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Quoting: Howie

Yeah maybe a 3rd and 7th. I'm not expecting a massive return but it's better than getting nothing

I also have a serious hunch that Minnesota and Florida are on his 5 team trade list.

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2 juin 2023 à 10 h 12

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Quoting: Howie

Pittsburgh would be a great spot with crosby but I doubt they want to get older

I dont know about that. Of course they want to get younger... but Dubas said they want to contend until Crosby, Malkin, and Letang are retired.

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 15

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Quoting: sensonfire

I also have a serious hunch that Minnesota and Florida are on his 5 team trade list.

Jets fans were mocking a Horquvist for Wheeler swap last offseason. I think Minny, Fla, Pit, Col, and Car are the 5. I am sure he would be open to more than 5 teams if they are contenders.

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2 juin 2023 à 10 h 26

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Wheeler is worth nothing imo, there isn't much interest in him across the league, if any team does trade for him the asset the Jets get back will be for the retention, not the player.

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 36

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Newtown

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Poor Blake Wheeler. All he did was outperform expectations for years with Winnipeg while being a good captain. Now that he’s aging Jets fans have turned on him. He should be kept and his number should be raised to the rafters one day. Very under-rated player. Just don’t expect him at his age to lead the league.

Guy has 922 points and has played over 1000 games. He’s in the final year of his deal. Let him play it out and sign him to a team friendly deal and watch him get 1000 points. Teams underestimate the power of legacy.

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2 juin 2023 à 10 h 37

#20

Howie

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Wheeler is worth nothing imo, there isn't much interest in him across the league, if any team does trade for him the asset the Jets get back will be for the retention, not the player.

Yep so wheeler at 50% retained definitely gets the value from the more affordable price but I feel like there is a part that is the player. 36 years old still getting 50+ points has some sort of value

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 38

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Howie

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Quoting: Newtown

I'd be fine with that but it's kinda up to him on what he'd prefer

2 juin 2023 à 10 h 50

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Wheeler is a hard one to put a value on. He's still good but there's a lot of smoke out there about him being a locker room cancer... and no one willingly tries to get cancer. I think he stays in WPG and if he's still playing well some team will pay a 2nd or 3rd for him at the deadline.

2 juin 2023 à 11 h 27

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MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Newtown

He was a terrible captain just like the piece of 💩 that wore the C before him, good riddance to Blake Wheeler!

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2 juin 2023 à 12 h 6

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The Jets will most likely have to buyout Wheeler. If they can get any pick for him and retain on him, it's a HUGE win for WPG.

If Wheeler goes somewhere else, he's a useful plug into RW or C when needed, but can't play more than 12 - 15 minutes a game and CANNOT be on in crucial situations against fast players.

2 juin 2023 à 15 h 53

#25

Newtown

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Quoting: Howie

I'd be fine with that but it's kinda up to him on what he'd prefer

If the media and fans stopped ragging on him and started appreciating his efforts I think it would be an easy sell.

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