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DirtyDangles

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Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 3:49 pm
Sujet: Flyering up the Flames
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dmh1055</b></div><div>He has throughout his career shown an effectiveness at putting up points without ever actually asserting any real control over the game. He's a nice player to have but is not a make or break player. The book is out on him at this point in his career. JVR is mostly the same. Neither is particularly clutch. Crying a shame that 11th highest scoring RW be traded for a productive 3rd line NHL center that makes impactful plays, puts up points, and changes momentum is quite bizarre. A strong third center will be more important to the youthful changeover the Flyers are having on the wings. Centers are also historically more valuable than a winger. I may feel differently if Voracek showed any willingness to be bullish to maintain puck possession and assert himself like he had earlier in his career. Once again he seems content to be a passenger on a train that is derailing and like before seems perfectly content not feeling personally accountable for it.</div></div>

Interesting take seeing as he is in the + when it comes to puck possession

https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/jakub-voracek
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 12:56 pm
Sujet: Flyering up the Flames
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dmh1055</b></div><div>You're undervaluing Backlund in this deal. I don't believe the Flames would trade Backlund even up for Voracek but they likely would to move from Lucic as well. With the rise of Farabee and Konecny Voracek's need on this team has diminished. They don't need an $8 million dollar soft playing 3rd liner. The higher salary would be better distributed solidifying the bottom 6. Making them stronger and tougher to play against. This also opens up more space for the young skill players in the bottom 6. Backlund is also capable of producing quality defensive minutes with 40 to 50 points a season.</div></div>

Voracek is the 11th highest scoring RWer in the NHL...not a 3rd liner and definitely worth more than a 3C and cap dump.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 11:44 am
Sujet: Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DH28Hockey</b></div><div>Like most of this but 2 big issues in my eyes:

- That Voracek trade doesn't save the team much money, they don't need the picks and makes the team worse. I think they keep him at that point

-Giving Larsson that big of a contract the literal year after Amacs buyout penalty expires would be about the most Flyer move imaginable</div></div>

The Voracek deal saves us money in 2 years. We could also buy out Neal after 1 year. I don't think the team is worse if you bring in Gaudreau. The team needs a face-lift and sometimes you need to lose a trade to do it.

As for Larsson, maybe his contract is high, something in the $4.5 range would be much more palatable. But I also don't think Larsson is bad by any means. He gets saddled with some really bad D partners for the majority of the time he is on the ice, not to mention that EDM is by no means stellar defensively with the forward group they have.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 4:37 pm
Sujet: Blown Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>2013-14 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 23 39 62 22 11 7 2 2 4 4
2014-15 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 22 59 81 78 1 -- -- -- -- --
2015-16 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 73 11 44 55 38 -5 6 1 0 1 4
2016-17 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 20 41 61 56 -24 -- -- -- -- --
2017-18 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 20 65 85 50 10 6 0 3 3 6
2018-19 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 78 20 46 66 25 -16 -- -- -- -- --
2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 69 12 44 56 31 14 15 4 5 9 24
2020-21 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 39 7 25 32 12 -10

66 56 32 tells me the last 3 years he is declining. But that is just me that sees those numbers I guess</div></div>

You do understand that last year was cut short and this year is as well and isn't over right? Like you can't possibly be this dense.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 4:17 pm
Sujet: Blown Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>2013-14 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 23 39 62 22 11 7 2 2 4 4
2014-15 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 22 59 81 78 1 -- -- -- -- --
2015-16 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 73 11 44 55 38 -5 6 1 0 1 4
2016-17 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 20 41 61 56 -24 -- -- -- -- --
2017-18 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 20 65 85 50 10 6 0 3 3 6
2018-19 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 78 20 46 66 25 -16 -- -- -- -- --
2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 69 12 44 56 31 14 15 4 5 9 24
2020-21 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 39 7 25 32 12 -10 '

Look at his goals, look at his points. If you cant see it, than I dont know what to say dude.</div></div>

I refer you to this...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>You do realize Voracek would be the third-highest producing forward on the Oilers' roster, right? Acquiring him to play with either McDavid or Draisaitl only compliments the centerman's ability to score goals as well. Quit acting like both of these men exclusively require shooters to play with: both guys are good for 40+ goals per year, who gives a rats ass as to which player is actually the goal scorer on their respective lines? It's very archaic of you to assume that the centerman needs to be the playmaker on a line.</div></div>