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Créé par: GiggywithGibby

Équipe: 2023-24 Ducks d'Anaheim

Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2023

Publié: 27 mai 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Refresh on my Wheeling and Dealing post from yesterday.

Three way trade between Colorado, Seattle, and Anaheim. Tossed Andersson in as a minor sweetener for Colorado as a fast skating RHD, could work well in their system.

Pick up Ceci for Fowler, Rutta for 3RD, and bring Fowler back for Drysdale. Nothing on the D core is knocking things out of the park, but its a marked improvement on last season.

Most importantly, bring the kids up to the front of the pack and let them blossom. Lundestrom has shown he produces when he has talent to play with him, has a great 2 way game, and is one of our best faceoff guys. Lets bring him to the 2nd line for a season and see how he produces. Zegras moves to the wing to create the TMZ line and secondary faceoffs for McTavish. Jones gets a shot in the top 6 to see if he can build off of last year where he was playing with swagger and making moves on the ice.

Doesn't matter if we pick Carlsson or Fantilli, they report to San Diego for this season.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Benoit, Simon	2	950 000 $
Dostal, Lukas	2	950 000 $
Groulx, Benoit-Olivier	2	950 000 $
Drysdale, Jamie	2	2 500 000 $
Terry, Troy	7	7 000 000 $
Zegras, Trevor	8	7 750 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse	2	1 500 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Kulikov, Dmitry		2	2 000 000 $

Transactions

EDM

Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MIN)

ANA

Rutta, Jan

PIT

Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (ANA)

ANA

Ylönen, Jesse [Droits de RFA]

MTL

Comtois, Maxime [Droits de RFA]

Rachats de contrats

Simon Despres: 0 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	67 957 917 $	0 $	3 425 000 $	15 542 083 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Zegras, Trevor 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ C, AG RFA - 3	McTavish, Mason 894 167 $894 167 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) C, AG RFA - 2	Terry, Troy 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD UFA - 7
Jones, Max 1 295 000 $1 295 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Lundeström, Isac 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Bjorkstrand, Oliver 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Vatrano, Frank 3 650 000 $3 650 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Henrique, Adam 1 456 250 $1 456 250 $ AG, C M-NTC UFA - 1	Ylönen, Jesse 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
McGinn, Brock 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Groulx, Benoit-Olivier 950 000 $950 000 $ C RFA - 1	Silfverberg, Jakob 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
	Gawdin, Glenn 762 500 $762 500 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Carrick, Sam 425 000 $425 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Fowler, Cam 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Ceci, Cody 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Gibson, John 6 400 000 $6 400 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 4
Kulikov, Dmitry 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Drysdale, Jamie 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD RFA - 3	Dostal, Lukas 950 000 $950 000 $ G RFA - 2
LaCombe, Jackson 925 000 $925 000 $ (925 000 $$925K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Rutta, Jan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2
Benoit, Simon 950 000 $950 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Vaakanainen, Urho 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Jones, M.		McTavish, M.		Terry, T.
	Zegras, T.		Drysdale, J.

Avantage numérique 2
Henrique, A.		Lundeström, I.		Bjorkstrand, O.
	Fowler, C.		Vatrano, F.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Henrique, A.	Ylönen, J.
	Kulikov, D.	Ceci, C.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Groulx, B.	Silfverberg, J.
	Fowler, C.	Rutta, J.

27 mai 2023 à 19 h 7

MontysPython

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Ylonen had more points in less games as a younger player. Idk about this one.

27 mai 2023 à 19 h 15

MoSeider53

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27 mai 2023 à 19 h 16

Black61

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Quoting: Mglgoalie33

Ylonen had more points in less games as a younger player. Idk about this one.

Its not close because comtois has a 2.4 million QO. If the habs want him they can wait a cpuple weeks when he definitely isnt qualified

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27 mai 2023 à 19 h 25

GiggywithGibby

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Quoting: Black61

Its not close because comtois has a 2.4 million QO. If the habs want him they can wait a cpuple weeks when he definitely isnt qualified

Alright, fine, you sign Comtois when he isn't QO'd and we claim Ylonen off waivers when you send him down at the start of the season. Happy?

Y'all acting like I'm asking for some untouchable top 6 player, its an exchange of bottom 6 pieces.

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27 mai 2023 à 19 h 35

GiggywithGibby

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

Cam Fowler for Cody Ceci, First off all Canadian teams are on Cam Fowlers no trade list. So he's not waiving for Edmonton He only has a 4 team trade list 3 Western and 1 Eastern and supposedly the Eastern team his hometown Detroit.

You could, I don't know, maybe read past the first line of the description and look at the trade, or the lineup, that might help you understand when I said "Pick up Ceci for Fowler" I clearly meant to be his defensive partner, not to trade Fowler for Ceci.......

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27 mai 2023 à 19 h 36

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27 mai 2023 à 19 h 41

MoSeider53

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

Sorry my bad, Yeah to be his defensive partner not trade for, My bad.

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27 mai 2023 à 19 h 45

GiggywithGibby

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

Sorry my bad, Yeah to be his defensive partner not trade for, My bad.

to be fair, some credit is in order, you did read the description which is more than 95% of the users on this site do.

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27 mai 2023 à 19 h 49

MoSeider53

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

to be fair, some credit is in order, you did read the description which is more than 95% of the users on this site do.

Yeah i mis-interpeted When you said pick up ceci for Fowler meaning trading Ceci for Fowler which would've been a major downgrade for the Ducks.

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27 mai 2023 à 20 h 9

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

It's not really an exchange of bottom 6 players though. Comtois is unlikely to receive a QO from the Ducks or any team he might be sent to, making him basically a UFA, while Ylonen has a QO under 1M and is likely to receive it. If it's just a swap of bottom 6 forwards in similar situations you want, then Gurianov for Comtois would work, since both are unlikely to get a QO. If it's Ylonen you want you'll need to offer more than a guy who is likely a UFA in a month.

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27 mai 2023 à 20 h 26

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GiggywithGibby

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Quoting: J2W

And Ylonen looses his waivers exempt status this season, so unless he makes the main roster out of camp, he is claimable. If he's got a long term spot on Montreal's roster then the deal doesn't make sense, but everything I've read on him indicates he doesn't have a long term spot, he's just a placeholder at the moment, and hasn't impressed enough to push himself onto the roster full time.

I'm fine with giving Gurianov a shot, but claiming Ylonen is infinitely more valuable because his QO is lower is just nonsensical. We're talking depth players, not headliners.

27 mai 2023 à 20 h 37

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

Hoffman and Armia are more likely to be waived than Ylonen at this point I think. Also, I never claimed Ylonen was infinitely more valuable than Comtois, just that he has more value. Teams don't typically trade young players that have a chance to make their roster out of camp for what amounts to negotiating rights with a UFA.

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27 mai 2023 à 20 h 52

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

They arent waiving him dont be stupid

27 mai 2023 à 20 h 57

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

Ylonen is a really good third liner, no way they waive him

27 mai 2023 à 21 h 5

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Quoting: Black61

They arent waiving him dont be stupid

Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

Ylonen is a really good third liner, no way they waive him

Y'all mind if I hang onto those receipts?

27 mai 2023 à 21 h 19

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Easy no for the Avs and go from there.

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27 mai 2023 à 21 h 35

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That right side of the defense really does not look appeasing outside Drysdale. I’d rather get one of Rutta or Ceci and sign Severson or Dumba.

I can’t see Seattle moving Bjorkstrand right now and I’m not sure Colorado accepts.

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27 mai 2023 à 21 h 41

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Quoting: TJTwolf

Easy no for the Avs and go from there.

I'm really not seeing why this is an "easy no" for Colorado. It's a cap neutral trade for the same duration, and Strome has a good body of work showing he produces well as a 2C with talent on his wings. Even with Landeskog on LTIR all next season you guys don't exactly have cap space to throw around, and the 2C UFA market is non-existent this year.

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28 mai 2023 à 12 h 33

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I personally would prefer for Helleson get a shot at the bottom pairing with LaCombe. But I can see why we wouldn't want to pair them together.

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