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Subtle But Not

Créé par: IDKtbh
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2023
Publié: 27 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 250 000 $
64 875 000 $
31 875 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Murray, Matt
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
TOR
  1. Bednar, Jan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Kubalik, Dominik (1 250 000 $ retained)
  3. McIsaac, Jared [Droits de RFA]
2.
DAL
  1. Lindström, Gustav [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (DET)
3.
DET
  1. Bratt, Jesper [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Extension: 8x$8.25m
NJD
  1. Zadina, Filip
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
4.
DET
  1. Newhook, Alex [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Extension: 6x$4.875m
COL
  1. Lombardi, Amadeus
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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Logo de DAL
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $74 147 222 $0 $4 257 500 $9 352 778 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
918 333 $918 333 $
C
RFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
905 833 $905 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
762 500 $762 500 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3

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27 mai 2023 à 13 h 30
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Make it a 2023 2nd and you have a deal. St. Louis 2nd to be specific
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27 mai 2023 à 13 h 30
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Chiarot is way way way way way way way way way way better then maata or wallman or liljregren or hakanpaa
27 mai 2023 à 13 h 30
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That doesn't get you Bratt
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27 mai 2023 à 13 h 32
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Toronto will keep Lily and their first. Seriously dude, try a little harder, none of those players help the Leafs or are that good.
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27 mai 2023 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: Hudson11
Chiarot is way way way way way way way way way way better then maata or wallman or liljregren or hakanpaa

Chiarot doesnt “suck” like most people say but, I also don’t agree with your overly enthusiastic opinion overall.
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27 mai 2023 à 13 h 34
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Quoting: Newtown
Toronto will keep Lily and their first. Seriously dude, try a little harder, none of those players help the Leafs or are that good.

I feel like Toronto is in a bit of desperate situation; I suppose I could include one of our 2nd rounders and I think that’s even things out.
27 mai 2023 à 13 h 36
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That doesn't get you Bratt

What does
27 mai 2023 à 13 h 40
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It's not the trade - I know that the Devils will almost certainly lose a Bratt trade if they trade him - its that I can't imagine we'd lose him if that's the contract he's agreeing to.
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27 mai 2023 à 13 h 43
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I was going to add on to what I said earlier.

While I think NYI 1st, STL 2nd and Zadina gets it done.

It could also be Bratt for DET 1st, Zadina or Bratt for NYI 1st and one year rental of Perron/Kubalik (this one being the one the Devils are probably angling for the most)
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27 mai 2023 à 13 h 44
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Chiarot doesnt “suck” like most people say but, I also don’t agree with your overly enthusiastic opinion overall.


Chariot is a bottom pairing defenceman that lacks skill. He was great in the playoffs one year when he was allowed to crosscheck anyone near the net but has been a disappointment ever since. He’s overpaid for the role he should be in.
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27 mai 2023 à 13 h 48
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
It's not the trade - I know that the Devils will almost certainly lose a Bratt trade if they trade him - its that I can't imagine we'd lose him if that's the contract he's agreeing to.

What do you think his contract would be
27 mai 2023 à 13 h 51
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Quoting: BrodeurBro30
I was going to add on to what I said earlier.

While I think NYI 1st, STL 2nd and Zadina gets it done.

It could also be Bratt for DET 1st, Zadina or Bratt for NYI 1st and one year rental of Perron/Kubalik (this one being the one the Devils are probably angling for the most)

I’d probably do NYI 1st, STL 2nd, Zadina & Kubalik for Bratt.
27 mai 2023 à 13 h 51
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What does


More than you'd be willing to move. It would have to start with pick #9, and Zadina is not at all interesting.
27 mai 2023 à 13 h 53
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Quoting: BrodeurBro30
I was going to add on to what I said earlier.

While I think NYI 1st, STL 2nd and Zadina gets it done.

It could also be Bratt for DET 1st, Zadina or Bratt for NYI 1st and one year rental of Perron/Kubalik (this one being the one the Devils are probably angling for the most)


Woof, I don't even love Bratt and you are selling him for very little. Who wants a rental?
27 mai 2023 à 13 h 54
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Quoting: Newtown
Chariot is a bottom pairing defenceman that lacks skill. He was great in the playoffs one year when he was allowed to crosscheck anyone near the net but has been a disappointment ever since. He’s overpaid for the role he should be in.

Yeah, he’s like exactly a 5th defenseman. Can fill in higher in the lineup in short term situations but, the moment you’re relying on him for anything beyond that is where it becomes an issue. His lack of offensive anything is his biggest downfall.
27 mai 2023 à 13 h 57
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
More than you'd be willing to move. It would have to start with pick #9, and Zadina is not at all interesting.

I was asking the commenter about what contract he expects Bratt to get.

But in regards to the return, you cannot ignore the depth of the 2023 draft. Just because DeBrincat went for the 7OA last year does not mean that is now the going rate. I seriously doubt anybody moves a top 10 pick this year or even a top 15 pick for a current player, unless it’s for a superstar.
27 mai 2023 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Woof, I don't even love Bratt and you are selling him for very little. Who wants a rental?


Bratt has one year of RFA left. He’s younger than Fiala and I expect him to get slightly more than Fiala because we aren’t as cap crunched and a B grade prospect or high marquee rental to replace Bratt on the right wing. The winger market is not as expensive as you may think. We got Timo Meier without surrendering any blue chippers.

I still agree with my trade premises.
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27 mai 2023 à 14 h 8
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Worst goaltending duo in ever
27 mai 2023 à 14 h 28
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How does trading Newhook help COL? It doesn’t. Easy no from COL.
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27 mai 2023 à 15 h 45
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Yeah, he’s like exactly a 5th defenseman. Can fill in higher in the lineup in short term situations but, the moment you’re relying on him for anything beyond that is where it becomes an issue. His lack of offensive anything is his biggest downfall.


If he’s making 3 million per you are talking about how great he is and not his flaws.
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27 mai 2023 à 16 h 16
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What does


NJD would want a young, age 20-25, player who is in NHL in top-6 forward or top-4 dman role with plenty of term/control. No picks or prospects are needed.

Quoting: IDKtbh
What do you think his contract would be


Probably similar to Fiala's deal last year with Kings ($7.875 million x 7 years)...unless he wants to go short-term. If he took 3-year deal, he would be 27 at UFA.
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28 mai 2023 à 19 h 22
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Chiarot doesnt “suck” like most people say but, I also don’t agree with your overly enthusiastic opinion overall.


He's better then the others
28 mai 2023 à 19 h 24
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Quoting: Newtown
Chariot is a bottom pairing defenceman that lacks skill. He was great in the playoffs one year when he was allowed to crosscheck anyone near the net but has been a disappointment ever since. He’s overpaid for the role he should be in.


Nah you just don't know what a good defensive dman
28 mai 2023 à 19 h 45
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He's better then the others

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.
28 mai 2023 à 20 h 9
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Quoting: Hudson11
Nah you just don't know what a good defensive dman


I stand corrected. Ben Chariot is awesome. Well worth the 4.75 million and probably why Detroit was so awesome this year.
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