The Devils are not keeping Severson haha Not with Hughes, Nemec, and Casey waiting in the wings

Or Jersey could... you know, re-sign Meier and Bratt and let Severson walk away instead of trading Meier for 1/3rd of what they gave up for him...

Boston is not touching that.

Carlo does not get moved unless they are blown away. This doesn’t even make them shift their weight.

1/3?? Here are my valuations...

Kubalik > Johnsson
Fabbri = Zetterlund + Mukhamadullin
Johansson = Okhotiuk
17oa > 26oa
42oa in 2023 > 2024 NJ 2nd

Kubalik for Johnsson is a wash
Fabbri is not worth as much as Mukhamadullin, let alone him and Zetterlund. Mukhamadullin is probably closer in value to someone like Edvinsson on his own

Devils have 34m in cap space and really don't need to resign any of the D besides Bahl considering Luke and Nemec will be on ELC next year so really like 33m to resign Bratt Meier McLeod Boqvist Bastian Sharangovich and Haula is probably the only UFA that gets resigned so all of those guys resigned worst case scenario is gonna cost like 25m.

Lets not act like the devils have to trade Meier to keep Severson or Graves its more or less should they and the answer is probably not.

New Jersey could sign Meier, Bratt, and Severson...without moving anyone out.

If we were to move Meier, there would have to be at least one premium piece in there (top-6 forward, top-4 dman, starting goalie)

This comparison is truly terrible. I wouldn't have done Zetterlund for Fabbri one for one. Rather have a younger guy that brings something to the lineup even when he doesn't score than a guy who is always injured and is never a thing. Let alone add Muk into the deal.

We also wanted to dump Johnsson, it was addition by subtraction. We needed that cap hit and roster spot for a Meier. That $5.25m you have sent back to the Devils is more than half of what is needed for a great player in Meier. The talk of Devils cap troubles is sooooo overblown.

How about…

Fabbri = 0

Kubalik + 2nd = Okhotiuk, Johnsson + 26oa

Edvinsson = Mukhamadullin + 2nd

I thought you wanted to sell futures to add rentals?

No I want to win a cup. This move doesn't make it more likely the Devils do so in the next 5 years. Adding Buchnevich for 2 years does, though.

Foegele is a top 6 winger on 95% of NHL teams. He's better than Engvall who you've paid the same. You figure him and a 6th are free eh? Oilers would be so lucky, lol

I truly hope that statement is ooooooozzing with sarcasm. A guy that has never broken 30pts .

I know wings fans are getting impatient with the rebuild but sorry the team still isn't close to being competitive and a perennial cup contender. These moves make them a little better in the short term and worse off long term which is the opposite of Yzerman's stated plans

No he's not... Foegele couldn't crack Carolina's top six, couldn't crack Edmonton's top six. That's already 6.25% of teams. Add in places like New Jersey, Rangers, Islanders, that's 10%. The truth is, Foegele is a bottom six winger, this is just pure bias coming out

No bias, just numbers

You adjust numbers for games played and time on ice though and...

Care to provide some? He doesn't produce like a top six winger, he doesn't have the analytics of a top six winger... want to give some numbers or you going to leave it at bias?

The "and..." really stretches it. Please even name a single playoff team Foegele should legit be a top 6 guy for.

I'll go first and give you a head start that he by no means is a top 6 for CAR, NJD, NYR, BOS, TOR, TB....but you go from there. As BAD as Laf was during the playoffs for the Rangers (he was 3rd line), he still isn't paid as Foegele is.

Not how that works…not all minutes are the same.

And if EDM needs depth, they should keep him.

I like individual expected goals per 60 minutes of ice time to help determine what a player is capable of. Takes salary, draft pedigree, a coaches deployment, and fan bias out of it. Hard to adjust for quality of competition and quality of linemates but Warren Foegele had the same ixG60 last season as Sidney Crosby. Out of the top 192 (Top 6 of all teams) players in ixG60 that appeared in over 50 games, Foegele is 52nd.

Who do you think you are? You don't get to tell anyone how things work.

I like individual expected goals per 60 minutes of ice time to help determine what a player is capable of. Takes salary, draft pedigree, a coaches deployment, and fan bias out of it. Hard to adjust for quality of competition and quality of linemates but Warren Foegele had the same ixG60 last season as Sidney Crosby. Out of the top 192 (Top 6 of all teams) players in ixG60 that appeared in over 50 games, Foegele is 52nd. Look at the company he's in, pretty good stat, and try and tell me that's not how it works.

Put Warren Foegele on Pittsburgh's 1st line and give him the same minutes as Crosby....he'll have a 93 point season too.

(if the pts/60, g/60 stats say so)

This is just not a good argument. If you don't pop against weak competition, you likely aren't doing it against better competition. You are twisting statistics as far as you can with this, but it doesn't cut it. Not sure if you are Warren's best friend, neighbor, cousin, or other relative, but I think 25 teams would be happy to tell you to keep him as things like salary DO matter when that money can be spent SO much better.

If Foegele was better, wouldn't he even be able to beat out Yamamoto for 2nd line duty when KY only had 25pts this year in 9 fewer games?

Ice time doesn't equal stats will improve. If you face tougher competition, life gets harder.

Please, how have I twisted stats? explain
I've used numbers not opinions. Quick look at all the forwards in the top 192 in ixG60 shows its value. Same argument can be made for playing with better linemates in the top 6 as facing lesser opponents in the bottom, so like I said it's hard to account for. The coaches deployment of Yamamoto and Foegele probably has something to do with them playing different positions I'd bet and the Oilers having 2 of Leon Draisaitl, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, and Evander Kane usually playing LW too but what do I or ANYONE know about Woodcrofts decisions.
More ice time doesn't mean production won't improve either