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Who is the best center that Marino plus Holtz could buy

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If we sought to add a top 3C, who is the best a Marino + Holtz package could buy?

JEE is serving as example here.

Goal would be to be able to run three lines. Right now, teams that play match-ups well are best at neutralizing Hughes and Hischier. A perfect fit would be a two-way center that fits our high-pace style of play. Cap and age factors as well. This all assumes we extend Severson and Nemec is on track for 2024-25 arrival.
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14 mai 2023 à 15 h 15
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Why would you need to make a trade for a 3c


Haula is right there. And keep holtz
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14 mai 2023 à 15 h 19
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Marino can be available?
14 mai 2023 à 15 h 20
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Do you really need a 3C that bad? If so, I think that’s a fine package for JEEK but I don’t think Minny does it because they are so barren at C.


Maybe Cirelli?
14 mai 2023 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Why would you need to make a trade for a 3c


Haula is right there. And keep holtz


Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
Do you really need a 3C that bad? If so, I think that’s a fine package for JEEK but I don’t think Minny does it because they are so barren at C.


Maybe Cirelli?


i know the devils don’t have space for another center but calling JEK a 3C is the most outlandish thing i’ve heard this month.
14 mai 2023 à 15 h 23
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Selling Marino is a horrible idea. Period.
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14 mai 2023 à 15 h 23
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Ryan O’Rielly would be a great fit in New Jersey and he’s a ufa
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14 mai 2023 à 15 h 23
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Marino can be available?


No. This is a bad exercise.
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14 mai 2023 à 15 h 24
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Quoting: PhilsWeiner
i know the devils don’t have space for another center but calling JEK a 3C is the most outlandish thing i’ve heard this month.


I mean, he isn’t a 3C but definitely would be behind Hughes and Hischier


We weren’t calling him a 3C, moreso saying he’d be a 3C for this team
14 mai 2023 à 15 h 40
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Why on earth would we trade Marino+Holtz for a 3C?!
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14 mai 2023 à 15 h 56
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You have two great centers don't sell assets to add a guy who has to sit that much. Sign a guy, trade for someone who isn't that expensive. Trading a Rd who plays 18 minutes a night is just not smart.
14 mai 2023 à 16 h 3
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Why would you need to make a trade for a 3c


Haula is right there. And keep holtz


Just curious really
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14 mai 2023 à 16 h 9
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Selling Marino is a horrible idea. Period.


I would not like the idea of selling Marino, so I am with you on that. Just curious. I could see a scenario where we buy a very good center to play 3C to ease matchups on Jack and Nico. I don’t know what that would look like…but we were really down to 2 lines and McLeod’s line in playoffs. Rolling four full lines may require a 3C who is a step better than Haula.
14 mai 2023 à 16 h 12
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Ryan O’Rielly would be a great fit in New Jersey and he’s a ufa


He would be an interesting addition if he is taking a discount.
14 mai 2023 à 16 h 22
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Quoting: PhilsWeiner
i know the devils don’t have space for another center but calling JEK a 3C is the most outlandish thing i’ve heard this month.


Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
I mean, he isn’t a 3C but definitely would be behind Hughes and Hischier


We weren’t calling him a 3C, moreso saying he’d be a 3C for this team


JEE would be 3rd center. I don’t think I am underrating him here as I offered a fairly solid package for him.

My think is this…

Teams are adapting to Hughes and playing their best defensive units against him. Hischier is often deployed in defensive situations or to counter opponents top lines. So there are a bunch of situations where our third line could end up with favorable match-up, but our 3rd line wasn’t good enough to fully capitalize on a mismatch. In the Carolina series, it feel to our fourth line (Wood, Bastian, McLeod) who looked better offensively than they had in a while. If we had a legit 3rd line that could play similarly style as Hughes and Hischier lines , we may have been able to do more in those minutes that made McLeod look like an offensive stud.

Make sense?
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14 mai 2023 à 16 h 24
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I would not like the idea of selling Marino, so I am with you on that. Just curious. I could see a scenario where we buy a very good center to play 3C to ease matchups on Jack and Nico. I don’t know what that would look like…but we were really down to 2 lines and McLeod’s line in playoffs. Rolling four full lines may require a 3C who is a step better than Haula.


Trading a top shutdown D for a depth 3C is a bad step on depth. Very bad.
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You have two great centers don't sell assets to add a guy who has to sit that much. Sign a guy, trade for someone who isn't that expensive. Trading a Rd who plays 18 minutes a night is just not smart.


I agree.

But if we extend Severson, and Nemec develops, we may have to trade a RD in a year anyway.
14 mai 2023 à 16 h 29
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Trading a top shutdown D for a depth 3C is a bad step on depth. Very bad.


Depends on situation.

The McLeod line looked good in Carolina series because they were throwing their best defensive players at Hughes and Hischier. Imagine if we had a 3C that could actually put up some offense in those mismatches. So I do think adding a quality 3C could help.

Losing Marino, yeah, I agree. Wouldn’t want to lose him.
14 mai 2023 à 16 h 42
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I don't like the idea of trading Holtz as much as I used to.
Here's some names I suggest to swap one-for-one with Marino alone (or non-roster adds in either direction):
Glass
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14 mai 2023 à 16 h 49
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Selling Marino is a horrible idea. Period.


Agreed, I've seen some recent posts from Devils fan's looking to trade him and it makes no logical sense.
14 mai 2023 à 17 h 12
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Quoting: CalvinKlein
Agreed, I've seen some recent posts from Devils fan's looking to trade him and it makes no logical sense.


Read what I was saying. There is plenty of logic to it.

(and I am not looking to trade Marino...I am checking prices on centers by using two popular pieces as currency)
14 mai 2023 à 18 h 0
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Depends on situation.

The McLeod line looked good in Carolina series because they were throwing their best defensive players at Hughes and Hischier. Imagine if we had a 3C that could actually put up some offense in those mismatches. So I do think adding a quality 3C could help.

Losing Marino, yeah, I agree. Wouldn’t want to lose him.


In the same argument...how do on D with no Marino back there for 24 minutes?
14 mai 2023 à 18 h 1
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I agree.

But if we extend Severson, and Nemec develops, we may have to trade a RD in a year anyway.


Do you think severson is extended, it seems almost a given that he's the odd man out right now.
14 mai 2023 à 20 h 4
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Quoting: Jfstompers
Do you think severson is extended, it seems almost a given that he's the odd man out right now.


I don’t think it’s a given either way. If I had to handicap, I’d say about 35-40% chance he is back in NJD next year.

He works well in Brunette’s system. I would not be surprised to see Severson go wherever Brunette ends up.
14 mai 2023 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
In the same argument...how do on D with no Marino back there for 24 minutes?


I am not really looking to trade Marino...I am checking prices on centers by using two popular pieces as currency.

If we did, it wouldn’t happen for another year or two anyway.
14 mai 2023 à 21 h 32
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Quoting: Fjordy
Marino can be available?


If severson takes 5 mill sure he could be available next offseason
 
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