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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 38
    #1
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    You can keep him, we will keep Seider and Larkin.
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    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 41
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    1 year of Matthews for 8 years of Larkin and Seider. Hilarious. 😆
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    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 42
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    Counter offer, Knies for Zadina. Zadina has more NHL points, therefore more valuable right?

    EDIT: Seider behind Schenn on the depth chart lol
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    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 42
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    Counter offer:

    A 7th rounder for Matthews (50%) and Marner (75%).
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    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 46
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    Not worth it for Detroit seeing as if they can sign matthews he will make 5-6 million more than larkin

    Seider and a 1st for matthews is interesting
    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 46
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    You know nothing JS
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    Delusional disorder is a type of mental health condition in which a person can’t tell what’s real from what’s imagined.
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    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 54
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    Not worth it for Detroit seeing as if they can sign matthews he will make 5-6 million more than larkin

    Seider and a 1st for matthews is interesting


    No it ain't. Fills one hole opens a much bigger one.
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    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 55
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    Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
    No it ain't. Fills one hole opens a much bigger one.


    I don't agree. Matthews/Larkin as 1, 2Cs trumps defense to me
    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 57
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    I don't agree. Matthews/Larkin as 1, 2Cs trumps defense to me


    Remove Seider from Detroit's lineup. Tell me how the defense looks.
    Walman - ?
    Edvinsson - Chiarot
    Maata - ?
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    13 mai 2023 à 9 h 57
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    I don't agree. Matthews/Larkin as 1, 2Cs trumps defense to me


    Our next best RHD is/was Mark Pysyk? Our best RHD prospect is still in J20 SHL.
    Then you realize that we have exactly 2 top line forwards, and a questionable 2nd line.
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    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 0
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    Quoting: CoachCoach
    Remove Seider from Detroit's lineup. Tell me how the defense looks.
    Walman - ?
    Edvinsson - Chiarot
    Maata - ?


    Make a trade or sign a free agent, or draft 1
    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 14
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    Make a trade or sign a free agent, or draft 1


    Oh, the "figure it out yourself" approach. Classic one-sided trade thoughts.
    - Trade for one means moving more assets. If you want to replace Seider, it costs an arm and a leg and prospects/draft capital that sets the team back. Trade less, get worse player back... economics.
    - Sign free agent means over paying and giving more term than value. Also probably won't get a 1 D, and again team "needs" are a thing.
    - Draft one I am sure SY will this year. I personally wouldn't be opposed to ASP, Reinbacher, Willander, Strbak, Allen, Gibson. They also won't be ready for another several years. Restart the rebuild.

    On the flip side, Toronto gets an established center for the next 8 years, and a cornerstone RD they now can afford for the next 8 years. They get worse at 1C, but vastly improve their defense. They also have more flexibility considering 8.7 + 9 = 17.7M over 8 seasons for two great players is more economically viable than 15M for 8 years of one center.
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    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 15
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    Hawks obviously decline
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    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 19
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    Quoting: Hawksguy81
    Hawks obviously decline


    I concur.
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    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 27
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    Quoting: CoachCoach
    Oh, the "figure it out yourself" approach. Classic one-sided trade thoughts.
    - Trade for one means moving more assets. If you want to replace Seider, it costs an arm and a leg and prospects/draft capital that sets the team back. Trade less, get worse player back... economics.
    - Sign free agent means over paying and giving more term than value. Also probably won't get a 1 D, and again team "needs" are a thing.
    - Draft one I am sure SY will this year. I personally wouldn't be opposed to ASP, Reinbacher, Willander, Strbak, Allen, Gibson. They also won't be ready for another several years. Restart the rebuild.

    On the flip side, Toronto gets an established center for the next 8 years, and a cornerstone RD they now can afford for the next 8 years. They get worse at 1C, but vastly improve their defense. They also have more flexibility considering 8.7 + 9 = 17.7M over 8 seasons for two great players is more economically viable than 15M for 8 years of one center.


    One sided trade? Come on, I traded you Matthews a top 3 player in the world

    I also simply called it interesting (seider and a 1st for matthews, not Larkin) and said the trade proposed
    in this agm wasn't good for Detroit.

    Atleast read the actual posts
    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 33
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    rofl, DET would not do Larkin for Mathews 1 for 1, mathews will want north of 12M, Larkin makes 8.7 and 10ish point difference between the 2 is not worth 4M+ in cap.
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    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 40
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    One sided trade? Come on, I traded you Matthews a top 3 player in the world

    I also simply called it interesting (seider and a 1st for matthews, not Larkin) and said the trade proposed
    in this agm wasn't good for Detroit.

    Atleast read the actual posts


    Lol I did read the post, you just didn’t comprehend what I said. One sided “view/thoughts”

    You are looking at it one sided.

    With this trade… TOR addresses term, top 6 F, top pair D….

    With this trade… DET establishes a bonafide 1C…

    and you said in regards to finding a replacement top D, “draft one or sign one or trade for one”

    That is literally one sided. You voiced its on Detroit to find one, not TOR’s problem. Doesn’t matter that Matthews is better than Larkin, that’s not the point.
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    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 41
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    Lol I did read the post, you just didn’t comprehend what I said. One sided “view/thoughts”

    You are looking at it one sided.

    With this trade… TOR addresses term, top 6 F, top pair D….

    With this trade… DET establishes a bonafide 1C…

    and you said in regards to finding a replacement top D, “draft one or sign one or trade for one”

    That is literally one sided. You voiced its on Detroit to find one, not TOR’s problem. Doesn’t matter that Matthews is better than Larkin, that’s not the point.


    You were quoting my post and only my post

    I said seider and a 1st for matthews was Interesting

    I said seider and Larkin for matthews was bad for Detroit

    My trade idea keeps Larkin.

    Take your complaints elsewhere
    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 45
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    Not worth it for Detroit seeing as if they can sign matthews he will make 5-6 million more than larkin

    Seider and a 1st for matthews is interesting


    Quoting: CoachCoach
    Oh, the "figure it out yourself" approach. Classic one-sided trade thoughts.
    - Trade for one means moving more assets. If you want to replace Seider, it costs an arm and a leg and prospects/draft capital that sets the team back. Trade less, get worse player back... economics.
    - Sign free agent means over paying and giving more term than value. Also probably won't get a 1 D, and again team "needs" are a thing.
    - Draft one I am sure SY will this year. I personally wouldn't be opposed to ASP, Reinbacher, Willander, Strbak, Allen, Gibson. They also won't be ready for another several years. Restart the rebuild.

    On the flip side, Toronto gets an established center for the next 8 years, and a cornerstone RD they now can afford for the next 8 years. They get worse at 1C, but vastly improve their defense. They also have more flexibility considering 8.7 + 9 = 17.7M over 8 seasons for two great players is more economically viable than 15M for 8 years of one center.


    Now you can see what I actually said above
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    13 mai 2023 à 10 h 53
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    I don't agree. Matthews/Larkin as 1, 2Cs trumps defense to me


    ^ this is what I was referencing. Apologies if you thought I was responding to you on the actual trade itself.

    All good, no hard feelings.
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