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Créé par: DirtyDangles
Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 12 mai 2023
Publié: 12 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If Michkov isn't there at 7 take Reinbacher as we need a stud RD so badly.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
32 750 000 $
21 750 000 $
22 250 000 $
21 250 000 $
22 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin (2 142 857 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
2.
PHI
  1. Barron, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Dillon, Brenden
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
3.
PHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Any team
ANA
  1. Deangelo, Anthony (2 500 000 $ retained)
4.
5.
PHI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Any Team
6.
PHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Not actually NJ pick
NJD
    Jay O'Brien compensation
    7.
    PHI
    1. Matthews, Auston
    Détails additionnels:
    8 x $13.5 extension
    TOR
    1. Couturier, Sean
    2. Farabee, Joel
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
    5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (PHI)
    Détails additionnels:
    2025 1st transfers if Coots doesn't play 60% of the games in 23/24 and 24/25
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    2283 500 000 $68 117 941 $1 187 500 $70 000 $15 382 059 $
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    RFA - 2
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    UFA - 1
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    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    RFA - 2
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    RFA - 2
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    UFA - 3
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    C, AG
    RFA - 2
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    RFA - 2
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    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    DG
    UFA - 2
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    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
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    3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
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    775 000 $775 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
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    UFA - 4
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    859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
    G
    RFA - 1
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    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    AD, C
    UFA - 1
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    DD
    UFA - 4
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    RFA - 1

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    12 mai 2023 à 8 h 49
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    Easy on the Captain Morgan over there
    12 mai 2023 à 8 h 52
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    Like everything other than the Mathews trade, might be a spot to go 7 to 5 and pick who you want, after top 4 picks go bedard/fantilli/carlsson/smith
    12 mai 2023 à 9 h 10
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    I doubt the return for Hayes won't be as substantial as a first rounder. I think Philly will be getting Foudy and/or Bemstrom with a mid round pick. Jackets need to move wingers before moving high picks.
    12 mai 2023 à 9 h 42
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    Quoting: ChucktheFNG
    I doubt the return for Hayes won't be as substantial as a first rounder. I think Philly will be getting Foudy and/or Bemstrom with a mid round pick. Jackets need to move wingers before moving high picks.


    That's why I added a 3rd from the Flyers.

    Quoting: Birtle34
    Like everything other than the Mathews trade, might be a spot to go 7 to 5 and pick who you want, after top 4 picks go bedard/fantilli/carlsson/smith


    What about the Matthews trade do you not like? The return for him or just Matthews in general?
    12 mai 2023 à 9 h 45
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    That's why I added a 3rd from the Flyers.



    What about the Matthews trade do you not like? The return for him or just Matthews in general?


    Just the walk ability, and the 8x13.5 needed. Don’t like either option. Just about rather slow build it for a few years, few top 10 picks and go. But also understand the speed up and paying the premium
    12 mai 2023 à 9 h 48
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    Quoting: Birtle34
    Just the walk ability, and the 8x13.5 needed. Don’t like either option. Just about rather slow build it for a few years, few top 10 picks and go. But also understand the speed up and paying the premium


    My thinking is that we aren't going to get a top tier 1C in the draft and I think next year we will be picking in the 10-15 range anyways.
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    12 mai 2023 à 9 h 51
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    My thinking is that we aren't going to get a top tier 1C in the draft and I think next year we will be picking in the 10-15 range anyways.


    Makes sense good call
    12 mai 2023 à 9 h 57
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    That's why I added a 3rd from the Flyers.


    While this draft is super top heavy, it is not deep. Florida's third rounder won't be worth anything; it's essentially an early fourth in disguise. Add your own third and it may be palatable as there may be second round talent there, but the Jackets are more interested in moving players than trading down in picks. They need to make room on the wings more than they need to make a third pick in the third round.
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 0
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    Travis is a 60pt guy. Laf is 21 and a 40pt guy. The Rangers would rather keep Laf and Goodrow at basically the same cap hit Travis would be. Laf probably gets 2.5 for 2 years.
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 1
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    I don't think Winnipeg is a good target for either Flyer as neither fill a need for the Jets. Plus Sanheim due to his contract isn't very appetizing at all.
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 2
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    Quoting: Bbousa
    Travis is a 60pt guy. Laf is 21 and a 40pt guy. The Rangers would rather keep Laf and Goodrow at basically the same cap hit Travis would be. Laf probably gets 2.5 for 2 years.


    TK was over a PPG this year.
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 2
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    I don't think Winnipeg is a good target for either Flyer as neither fill a need for the Jets. Plus Sanheim due to his contract isn't very appetizing at all.


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    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 5
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    I'd just wait for next year to take a RD. Next years class is way better for defense IMO, and atm look like multiple will go in the top 10. I much prefer Benson, Leonard, Dvorsky over Reinbacher for pick 7. If they were to pick Reinbacher I would want to trade back and take him, and try to grab an extra pick in the process.
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 9
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    Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
    I'd just wait for next year to take a RD. Next years class is way better for defense IMO, and atm look like multiple will go in the top 10. I much prefer Benson, Leonard, Dvorsky over Reinbacher for pick 7. If they were to pick Reinbacher I would want to trade back and take him, and try to grab an extra pick in the process.


    Back to back years of taking a RD high wouldn't upset me either.
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 10
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    Hometown boy tears of joy


    I agree. You created a trade that heavily favors Philly. You get the two best players and dump an awful contract of an LHD and worthless piece on a team that needs neither, so yes I agree with your assessment of your trade being Flyer biased.
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 18
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    In fantasyland maybe this happens but almost none of this is actually realistic
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 20
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    My thinking is that we aren't going to get a top tier 1C in the draft and I think next year we will be picking in the 10-15 range anyways.


    This is the year to get a top C in the draft. Even at 7OA there are a lot of good options. I think Dvorsky would be great.
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 24
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    I agree. You created a trade that heavily favors Philly. You get the two best players and dump an awful contract of an LHD and worthless piece on a team that needs neither, so yes I agree with your assessment of your trade being Flyer biased.


    You think a 32 year old with an expiring contract and a 4th liner are better than Sanheim who had to drag Ristolainen or TDA around the ice the last 2 years? Ok...
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 27
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    Quoting: Hockey_Mind
    This is the year to get a top C in the draft. Even at 7OA there are a lot of good options. I think Dvorsky would be great.


    Everyone wants Dvorsky and I want no part of him. He hasn't done anything against better competition! Here is a comparison for you...Carlsson will go top 3 or 4 and was a half ppg player in the SHL (Sweden's top league). Dvorsky didn't play in the SHL. Dvorsky was also not even a .5 ppg player in the SWE-1 (2nd tier). I am not risking a top 10 pick on that!
    12 mai 2023 à 10 h 42
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    You think a 32 year old with an expiring contract and a 4th liner are better than Sanheim who had to drag Ristolainen or TDA around the ice the last 2 years? Ok...


    With Sanheim's upcoming extension coupled with his play last year and the Jets having zero need for another LHD, absolutely.

    I could understand If the Jets needed Sanheim, or if his extension was actually good value for his play and didn't have trade protection, but as it stands, the Jets would have no interest in him.

    The last thing the Jets need is a LHD. Especially one that is overpaid, underperforming and has trade protection.
     
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