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Créé par: pocke

Équipe: 2023-24 Blue Jackets de Columbus

Date de création initiale: 10 mai 2023

Publié: 10 mai 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

CBJ Draft Carlsson at 3OA. He plays in the SHL for one more year before coming over with a little seasoning on him.

Still leaves room for #34, the '24 2nd and Peeke to be moved or added in a deal to boost some value. These assets can also theoretically be used to move Gudbranson but I don't know that Jarmo is ready to do move a signed UFA that quickly. If there's a defenseman to be acquired in UFA, or with the above assets, Forbot can slide down to the 3rd pair and be a low 5v5 TOI but high volume PKer.

I'm not confident Backlund moves and if he moves that he comes here. That pick, + some of the low in the lineup Torts style forwards, could be used to get Hayes, though that leaves us still poor defensively. Backlund helps Tex + Chinakhov (or maybe Marchenko) get used to playing in a matchup role. He can be resigned if he likes the fit or can go as Carlsson and Sillinger push for roster space. He can also play up this year if Laine, KJ or Schmaltz can't play C, or as an additional option to move Jenner to wing.

I don't mind CBJ spending Backlund assets+ (both 2nds most likely) to get Kuznetzov, at no retention, either. I question his locker room dynamic as Jarmo really values positive locker room interactions. He then would push Jenner down (ideally to a matchup 3rd) or to the side and let people slide into better matchups. I think the 1st is still better spent on Schmaltz. I am not sure Hayes is still on the table with the new GM but he can be a fallback since it seems like he'll still be moving somewhere.

Looking at Orlov, Soucy in FA. I really like Graves and Gavvy but have to think their playoff performances mean their contracts' length are still not to Jarmo's liking. Timmins and Forbot were targeted because they were aggressive entry defenders and should help to enhance the puck retrievers they are paired with. Blankenburg should fit here if he can remain healthy and continue developing. Any UFA or trade target should move toward that purpose.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Olivier, Mathieu		1	975 000 $
Berni, Tim		1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

CBJ

Backlund, Mikael

CGY

Boqvist, Adam
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)

CBJ

Timmins, Conor

TOR

Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)

CBJ

Forbort, Derek

BOS

Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (WPG)

CBJ

Schmaltz, Nick

Détails additionnels:

CBJ get a righty transition puck playmaker who is an upgrade on Roslovic and whose actual salary exceeds his AAV. He should help unlock Laine. He can also work with Kent Johnson or Alex Texier and they can switch faceoffs to keep the strong side in the O zone.

ARI

Bean, Jake
Bemström, Emil
Roslovic, Jack (2 000 000 $ retained)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)

Détails additionnels:

Arizona gets a cheap Gostisbehere replacement. If Jake Bean can stay healthy he can be a really dynamic defenseman. He has been in a very poor system or had to play off-side.

Roslovic does similar things to Schmaltz but with a lower ceiling and some PK experience. His cap-hit is retained to lower his actual money to Arizona. If they want the full cap-hit for cap-floor reasons that makes the deal easier. Roslovic also played with Keller at the USNTDP so there is some familiarity there.

Bemstrom is another warm body who can buy time for Guenther, Cooley, Geekie.

CBJ

Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (COL)

ANA

Peeke, Andrew

CBJ

Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (EDM)

PHI

Robinson, Eric

Rachats de contrats

Alexander Wennberg: 891 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jack Roslovic: 2 000 000 $ (100%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	73 480 833 $	0 $	3 700 000 $	10 019 167 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Gaudreau, Johnny 9 750 000 $9 750 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 6	Jenner, Boone 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Marchenko, Kirill 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD RFA - 1
Johnson, Kent 925 000 $925 000 $ (1 850 000 $$2M) AG, C RFA - 1	Laine, Patrik 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C, AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Schmaltz, Nick 5 850 000 $5 850 000 $ AD, C M-NTC UFA - 3
Texier, Alexandre 1 525 000 $1 525 000 $ AG, C, AD RFA - 1	Backlund, Mikael 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Chinakhov, Yegor 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
Danforth, Justin 975 000 $975 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1	Kuraly, Sean 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Voronkov, Dmitri 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, C, AD RFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Werenski, Zachary 9 583 333 $9 583 333 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Timmins, Conor 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Merzlikins, Elvis 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 4
Forbort, Derek 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Jiricek, David 918 333 $918 333 $ (1 000 000 $$1M) DD RFA - 3	Tarasov, Daniil 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ G RFA - 2
Berni, Tim 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG RFA	Gudbranson, Erik 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Blankenburg, Nick 825 000 $825 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Olivier, Mathieu 975 000 $975 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Foudy, Liam 762 500 $762 500 $ AG, C RFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Schmaltz, N.		Jenner, B.		Gaudreau, J.
	Laine, P.		Werenski, Z.

Avantage numérique 2
Marchenko, K.		Backlund, M.		Johnson, K.
	Chinakhov, Y.		Jiricek, D.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Kuraly, S.	Danforth, J.
	Forbort, D.	Gudbranson, E.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Backlund, M.	Texier, A.
	Werenski, Z.	Timmins, C.

10 mai 2023 à 19 h 55

Victor24

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So you traded for Forbort and gave up a 4th and put him as your second pair dman....

Any chance you want to sell Jenner to Van or Pit or Ana. They'd offer a 3rd. It's a good deal.

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10 mai 2023 à 19 h 59

GiggywithGibby

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Probably not far off on Peeke, we're interested, might be more feeling the ANA 2023 3rd though.

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10 mai 2023 à 19 h 59

tonyhzs

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Too bad Carlson is a wing. He hasn't played center in the SHL. Look at his SHL faceoff numbers if you want proof and don't want to do any digging. Columbus needs a bonafide center. I'd either take Michkov and wait a few years, or trade down a few spots and get one of tbe many centers in this draft.

Carlson has a high risk of not living up to draft pedigree. Same with Will Smith, or Dvorsky.

10 mai 2023 à 20 h 15

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Didn't you guys just extend Peeke? I mean, I'll take him for #58 or #59, but it seems odd for you guys to be trading him away.

10 mai 2023 à 20 h 32

SK101

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Quoting: tonyhzs

Carlson has one of the highest floors in the draft outside of bedard. He’s already produced well in a men’s league

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10 mai 2023 à 20 h 32

Dr_Invictus

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Pass. We may as well keep Backlund as Boqvist seems like 8 years away from being the same type of player.

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10 mai 2023 à 20 h 45

tonyhzs

Banni

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Quoting: SK101

Carlson has one of the highest floors in the draft outside of bedard. He’s already produced well in a men’s league

Said the same of Laf, Kakko, Zadina.

10 mai 2023 à 21 h 7

KingofRnR

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Backlund Declines

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11 mai 2023 à 10 h 14

pocke

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Didn't you guys just extend Peeke? I mean, I'll take him for #58 or #59, but it seems odd for you guys to be trading him away.

Yes, but we have Jiricek and Gudbranson on the roster. I think there are better matches for Zach Werenski in case Jiricek doesn't make it as his partner. Peeke is a shot-blocker and CBJ are transitioning to a more mobile and aggressive D corps. He doesn't quite have the skating to be that. I would rather move Gudbranson and have Peeke take his role but Jarmo likes Gudbranson for locker room reasons.

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11 mai 2023 à 10 h 15

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pocke

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Quoting: tonyhzs

Quoting: SK101

Carlson has one of the highest floors in the draft outside of bedard. He’s already produced well in a men’s league

Pettersson was a wing in the SHL and he's just fine as a C.

Many scouts see Carlsson's ceiling as higher than Fantilli's. Carlsson compares himself to Barkov and many others compare him to Kopitar. He's not an automatic hit but he looks about as close to it as you can get.

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11 mai 2023 à 10 h 18

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pocke

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Quoting: Victor24

So you traded for Forbort and gave up a 4th and put him as your second pair dman....

Any chance you want to sell Jenner to Van or Pit or Ana. They'd offer a 3rd. It's a good deal.

I don't understand what you mean. Forbort is getting moved from Boston for cap reasons. He's not a 2nd pairing defenseman but he's a vet who can help insulate the rookie Jiricek. He's an aggressive blue line defender and Jiricek is an excellent retriever. Forbort wasn't otherwise good at 5 on 5 but is good on the PK. He fits the niche we are looking for and his contract expires soon. We'll need space with Mateychuk/Svozil pushing for ice-time next year.

Jenner is really good, a 40-50pt C making less than $4 million. Not sure why he would be at all compared to Forbort.

11 mai 2023 à 11 h 16

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Victor24

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Quoting: pocke

Because Forbort is terrible at being a defenseman. He is good on the PK but that is it. Did you watch him in the playoffs? Did you see the turnover in his zone then he fell down and FLA scored? Yeah there were 4 of those where they didn't score. He was bad and was bad all year.

11 mai 2023 à 11 h 19

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pocke

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Quoting: Victor24

I see. Like I mentioned in the post if we get a D via UFA or spend some more of the assets for a better defenseman he easily slides down. We do need someone that can PK on the left side behind Werenski.

11 mai 2023 à 11 h 21

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Victor24

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Quoting: pocke

Oh I get that. I just think you could find a FA who is better and cheaper than Forbort. Your logic makes sense, I just disagree on the guy you chose to fill the role.

11 mai 2023 à 11 h 25

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Hockey_Soul

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No thanks on Forbort and Timmins. Both are 6-7 dmen, which we already have a surplus of. We need to acquire one or two legitimate top-4 guys this offseason, not more bottom pair guys who can play up in a pinch.

I agree Peeke is expendable, but I'd love to package him with another player to upgrade the D, not make a lateral move.

Schmaltz would be a good add if we could get him at a fair price, but I don't think ARZ is going to let him go cheap.

I don't see Backlund as a good fit either. We need a higher end center. If trading for Schmaltz, I'd rather play him at 1C or 2C.

I really hope the Laine at C experiment works, but I'm honestly skeptical about him being able to pull it off. He also has to prove he can stay healthy, which has been this team's biggest issue.

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11 mai 2023 à 14 h 29

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Konkarsson

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still horrible D

11 mai 2023 à 15 h 39

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pocke

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Quoting: Hockey_Mind

Quoting: Konkarsson

still horrible D

I believe in the metrics I used for Forbot and Timmins (entry denial% and entries against/60). They come with risk of course but I think each is a better complement to Jiricek and Werenski than we have on the roster. If they are paired with aggressive entry defenders it can force dump-ins and those two are excellent puck retrievers.

I would also prefer to upgrade Peeke but I'm not sure who wants Peeke that also has an upgrade for him on the roster. Could be Boston with Carlo. Could go for an LA defensman like Roy or Durzi but they aren't taking a roster player back. Have to keep in mind that Mateychuk/Svozil look like they'll be players soon (2 years for both to be on the roster I'd bet) and we can't build gigantic roadblocks to their playtime with Gudbranson already on the roster.

I can list a bunch of UFAs we could try to sign (I'd love Dumba, Severson, Graves, Soucy or Gavrikov) but that's a competitive marketplace and they should be considered bonuses and not bedrock of a plan going forward.

The goal here isn't to make the playoffs next year but to get closer while we break in young players and I think it achieves that.

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