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My compromise to Detroit if they do not want to pay full price for the Cat

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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 9 mai 2023
Publié: 9 mai 2023
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DET)
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DET
    My hope would be that if we trade DeBrincat, we would get back a full refund from any team.


    That would mean if we trade DeBrincat to Detroit, we would get #9 overall + a second + a third.


    But what if Detroit doesn't want to trade #9 overall for DeBrincat?
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    OTT
      I have a compromise.
      DET
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      1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
      2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
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      My compromise is #17 overall + Boston's 1st.

      What's your compromise?
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 9
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      #17 pick and Carter Mazur

      Similar to LAK/Fiala
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 10
      #2
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      (Not a Red Wing fan)
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 10
      #3
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      Why the change of heart I thought Ryan Reynolds and Snoop were going to convince Debrincat to stay in Ottawa.
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 13
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      Quoting: aedoran
      Why the change of heart I thought Ryan Reynolds and Snoop were going to convince Debrincat to stay in Ottawa.


      Cats and Doggs don’t mix
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 21
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      Yeah well Yzerman isn't trading the 9 OA pick for Cat, So deal him elsewhere. We'll just stay the course and keep our picks thank you.
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 22
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      No thanks lol
      "Full Price" is the price you paid and not his actual value since recessing?
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 26
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      Démarrer sujet
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      Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
      No thanks lol
      "Full Price" is the price you paid and not his actual value since recessing?


      Full Price = Full Refund
      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 28
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      Quoting: aedoran
      Why the change of heart I thought Ryan Reynolds and Snoop were going to convince Debrincat to stay in Ottawa.


      I'm hoping we keep our options open.
      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 29
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      Full Price = Full Refund


      Man that's funny.
      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 31
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      You'll get Mazur or 9OA when there's air conditioning in Hell. Try again.
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 36
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      Here's the compromise. Vancouver 2nd.

      Kid Rock's double's autographed photo of Eugene Melnyk.
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 40
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      Quoting: tonyhzs
      Here's the compromise. Vancouver 2nd.

      Kid Rock's double's autographed photo of Eugene Melnyk.


      Here's the counter-compromise.

      Pound sand.
      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 50
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      Why do the wings need to compromise haha hard no on giving you any of those firsts. I don’t want Cat and I hope Yzerman shares my opinion
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      9 mai 2023 à 19 h 57
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      Here's the counter-compromise.

      Pound sand.


      Pretty sure that's what I was getting at.

      Ottawa will not get back what they paid. They will not get close to what they paid.

      The Sens bought a nice low mileage sports car and they paid blue book value, maybe a bit above. A year later, there are more miles, and nobody is sure if that engine noise is ok or not. Probably nothing, but the noise is still there. The Sens are realizing tbe upkeep of their toy sports car is a little more than they thought it would be, and the car didn't drive like they thought it would. So tell me, who pays for a year older car with assured higher maintenance costs and possible problems?
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      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 1
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      Quoting: pavelisgoat
      Why do the wings need to compromise haha hard no on giving you any of those firsts. I don’t want Cat and I hope Yzerman shares my opinion


      I'm not against getting Cat. I would rather wait for UFA.
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      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 2
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      Quoting: tonyhzs
      Pretty sure that's what I was getting at.

      Ottawa will not get back what they paid. They will not get close to what they paid.

      The Sens bought a nice low mileage sports car and they paid blue book value, maybe a bit above. A year later, there are more miles, and nobody is sure if that engine noise is ok or not. Probably nothing, but the noise is still there. The Sens are realizing tbe upkeep of their toy sports car is a little more than they thought it would be, and the car didn't drive like they thought it would. So tell me, who pays for a year older car with assured higher maintenance costs and possible problems?


      Not to mention, this draft year is significantly better than last years. Wouldn't trade DeBrincat's return for 9OA lol
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      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 9
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      Quoting: pavelisgoat
      Why do the wings need to compromise haha hard no on giving you any of those firsts. I don’t want Cat and I hope Yzerman shares my opinion


      Because compromise is how trades work?



      If you don't want Cat and don't like this ACGM, too bad.

      There will be plenty of ACGMs to come involving Cat to Detroit.
      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 12
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      Honestly a compromise would be Berggren and a second. If you say we would need a first with Berggren I would say Berggren is the first. Good young skilled player who might be expendable if we acquired Debrincat. Would maybe take Joseph in that deal and I would also like Thomson in it. Might need a bit more going to Ottawa but start with that.
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      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 19
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      Quoting: tonyhzs
      Pretty sure that's what I was getting at.

      Ottawa will not get back what they paid. They will not get close to what they paid.

      The Sens bought a nice low mileage sports car and they paid blue book value, maybe a bit above. A year later, there are more miles, and nobody is sure if that engine noise is ok or not. Probably nothing, but the noise is still there. The Sens are realizing tbe upkeep of their toy sports car is a little more than they thought it would be, and the car didn't drive like they thought it would. So tell me, who pays for a year older car with assured higher maintenance costs and possible problems?


      Or we just keep "driving that car" for another 8 years until it quits.

      And then you'll move on to whine and complain about the next ACGM involving a trade to Detroit.
      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 19
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      Quoting: tonyhzs
      Here's the compromise. Vancouver 2nd.

      Kid Rock's double's autographed photo of Eugene Melnyk.


      Let them continue living in Fantasy land.
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      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 19
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      I'm not against getting Cat. I would rather wait for UFA.


      That will be at least 8 years from now.
      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 20
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      Here's the counter-compromise.

      Pound sand.


      We’ll gladly trade you sand for pounding in exchange for future considerations. You’re not getting your “full refund”. You’re not getting two firsts, you’re not getting 9OA.

      What you’re getting is an overpriced undersized winger who doesn’t want to be there and will be traded away for less value than what you paid.
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      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 24
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      Quoting: Lancebmx
      Honestly a compromise would be Berggren and a second. If you say we would need a first with Berggren I would say Berggren is the first. Good young skilled player who might be expendable if we acquired Debrincat. Would maybe take Joseph in that deal and I would also like Thomson in it. Might need a bit more going to Ottawa but start with that.


      Berggren is not worth a first.

      Let's not get carried away now.
      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 25
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      That will be at least 8 years from now.


      Seeing as how he won’t sign long term I can’t see how that will be 8 years from now. He’ll sign his 1 year deal for 9 million and then become UFA next summer. Dude wants UFA status to go where he wants to go.
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      9 mai 2023 à 20 h 28
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      Berggren is not worth a first.

      Let's not get carried away now.


      What's Pinto worth?
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