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No more Mushy Middle - in 3-4 years

Créé par: sburns1992
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 3 mai 2023
Publié: 3 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is not real and these trades will not happen. But if I had control of the Jets and wanted to rebuild and could control people's minds (within reason) this is what I would do. This team would suck horribly so you end up trading Neiderreiter, Bjugstadt, Luybushkin, and Donato at the deadline if you can.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
2950 000 $
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1850 000 $
1850 000 $
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22 000 000 $
1850 000 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
11 750 000 $
22 400 000 $
12 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Wheeler, Blake (4 000 000 $ retained)
2.
WPG
  1. Evans, Jake
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
3.
WPG
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. Lyubushkin, Ilya
  3. Rousek, Lukas [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Jets then trade Lyubushkin at the deadline
4.
WPG
  1. Cossa, Sebastian
  2. Mazur, Carter
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
DET
  1. Dillon, Brenden
  2. Hellebuyck, Connor
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
5.
WPG
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
6.
WPG
  1. Rathbone, Jack
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Stanley, Logan
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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Logo de BOS
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Logo de VAN
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $61 805 357 $0 $1 687 500 $20 694 643 $

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AG
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
850 000 $850 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
687 500 $687 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1

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3 mai 2023 à 16 h 52
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As a Wings fan, I'd personally pass. Hellebuyck is obviously better now, and Cossa may never reach his level. But Helle is already over 30, and his age just doesn't line up with the Wings rebuild at all. He'd be really old by time they're a cup contender
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3 mai 2023 à 16 h 58
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Jets add Kyle Connor to wings trade
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3 mai 2023 à 16 h 59
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Scheifele isn't a fit for Buffalo.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 0
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Why are so many Jets fans convinced Buffalo would want Scheifele? Center is arguably their strongest position (minus winning face-offs).
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 6
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Buffalo easily passes
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 6
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No thanks from Detroit. If he wants to play in Detroit we will sign him as a free agent otherwise we will just develop Cossa.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 7
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Quoting: Funksoljah
Why are so many Jets fans convinced Buffalo would want Scheifele? Center is arguably their strongest position (minus winning face-offs).


Honestly they should be after JGP if the Islanders decide to move him. Wins draws and is super solid defensively. They have more than enough fire power.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 11
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Even if the Jets trade Scheifele there isn't a world where Evans becomes a Jet.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 13
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Interesting. As an outside observer I thought the Red Wings were closer to contending than it seems? Thought as early as next year.

Quoting: AmeriCanadian
As a Wings fan, I'd personally pass. Hellebuyck is obviously better now, and Cossa may never reach his level. But Helle is already over 30, and his age just doesn't line up with the Wings rebuild at all. He'd be really old by time they're a cup contender
3 mai 2023 à 17 h 14
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I'm sorry but Detroit isn't giving up that much for a 30yr old goalie when they aren't even a playoff team yet. I do like Hellebuyck but it's more than Detroit can afford to give up.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 15
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Truthfully, I thought Cozens was a LW, which is why I identified Buffalo as a team that might need a 2C. Scheifele might still fit on the right side somewhere and did play well on PLD's wing down the stretch run.

Quoting: Funksoljah
Why are so many Jets fans convinced Buffalo would want Scheifele? Center is arguably their strongest position (minus winning face-offs).
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 17
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Even if the Jets trade Scheifele there isn't a world where Evans becomes a Jet.


Genuinely curious. If you were to get PLD in a trade this year, what are you willing to give up? I don't think the Jets will do it if a roster player isn't coming back. Unless you throw in another prospect.
3 mai 2023 à 17 h 18
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Quoting: aedoran
I'm sorry but Detroit isn't giving up that much for a 30yr old goalie when they aren't even a playoff team yet. I do like Hellebuyck but it's more than Detroit can afford to give up.


Commented this on a similar post earlier but as an outside observer I thought Detroit was closer to contending then they are I suppose. I will obviously defer to Red Wings fans on that one.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 28
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Genuinely curious. If you were to get PLD in a trade this year, what are you willing to give up? I don't think the Jets will do it if a roster player isn't coming back. Unless you throw in another prospect.


I'm a Jets fan, I just want Duchois gone.
3 mai 2023 à 17 h 39
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Quoting: sburns1992
Commented this on a similar post earlier but as an outside observer I thought Detroit was closer to contending then they are I suppose. I will obviously defer to Red Wings fans on that one.

Detroit is closer than some on here give them credit for, but that is BECAUSE of Yzerman's patience and we're not selling the future. Detroit is keeping all our A level picks and prospects. If a trade can be made that makes us better that doesn't cost us one of those, we do it, otherwise, we stay the course.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 41
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Quoting: buffbry
Jets add Kyle Connor to wings trade


Still wouldn't do it. Connor might make the Wings a playoff team next year. Helleybuck too. Cossa and Mazur, in 2-3 could easily be at the same level as the 2 players being traded for. Plus the 1st. Yikes. Helleybuck likely declines in his 30s, and needs a new deal now. Connor needs a new deal in a couple years. Doesn't fit with timing, and can shorten the competitive window when everyone else is ready.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 42
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Detroit is closer than some on here give them credit for, but that is BECAUSE of Yzerman's patience and we're not selling the future. Detroit is keeping all our A level picks and prospects. If a trade can be made that makes us better that doesn't cost us one of those, we do it, otherwise, we stay the course.


Fair enough! I guess my thought was Helle in the next 2-3 years could get them over the hump rather than waiting for Cossa to develop. But if I were the Red Wings I'd be pretty cautious to protect that outstanding prospect pool as well! Plus there's a chance Husso has a bounce-back year too.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 43
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I'm a Jets fan, I just want Duchois gone.


Ah a fellow-suffering Jets fan! Welcome! lol. Yeah I think he has about 90% of his body out the door already. If they don't think they can get a full buy-in from him next year a trade has to get done sooner rather than later.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 43
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Wheeler is 36 and will be a UFA after next season. Why would the Islanders take on $4.5mm for just 15-16 goals? We could just hold onto Bailey and have the same result.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 45
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Quoting: sburns1992
Commented this on a similar post earlier but as an outside observer I thought Detroit was closer to contending then they are I suppose. I will obviously defer to Red Wings fans on that one.


Close to playoffs? Yes. Close to competing for more? Still 3 years, maybe 4 before the team is a real threat. Cossa needs to be a #1 by then, Edvinsson a top LD, and Wallinder or Johansson or both legit top 4. Mazur appears to be a steal of a top 6 winger.
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3 mai 2023 à 17 h 50
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No
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3 mai 2023 à 18 h 2
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Interesting. As an outside observer I thought the Red Wings were closer to contending than it seems? Thought as early as next year.


As early as next year being a playoff team maybe. But as of now only Seider and Raymomd have fully made the team of Yzerman's picks. It'll be another few years before the team is a real contender
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3 mai 2023 à 18 h 33
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Red Wings hard pass.
3 mai 2023 à 18 h 34
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Quoting: sburns1992
Interesting. As an outside observer I thought the Red Wings were closer to contending than it seems? Thought as early as next year.


No. Next year we'll only have 3 or 4 Yzerman drafted prospects on the team.
Next year I'd be amazed if we crack wildcard.
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3 mai 2023 à 19 h 10
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Quoting: sburns1992
Commented this on a similar post earlier but as an outside observer I thought Detroit was closer to contending then they are I suppose. I will obviously defer to Red Wings fans on that one.


Yeah but we lost Bertuzzi and Vrana at the start of the season they were in our top 6. That puts Fabbri in to the top 6 but with the knees of an 80yr old he was only able to play 28 games. Now Rasmussen did step up and played well until he got injured. Edvinsson who would have made the team out of camp is now out for 5 months with a shoulder injury. So Mazur could actually make the team out of camp. With injuries and horrible lottery luck I'm not sure Detroit is even a playoff team for the next couple of seasons. And that is pretty depressing.
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