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What does Ullmark cost

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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 26 avr. 2023
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26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 25
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add a decent prospect and then I think it would be fair for Ullmark. I dislike that Detroit trade for Ottawa.
26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 26
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add a decent prospect and then I think it would be fair for Ullmark. I dislike that Detroit trade for Ottawa.


Yeah idk man. Ideally I’d love if Ottawa can grab either the 8th or 9th overall with Washington or Detroit in a sign and trade. And then sign someone like Bertuzzi , get a 3rd liner and sign a goalie or trade for one. But we’ll see
26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 31
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What is he worth? Depends who you ask. My opinion, a medium to low 1st and B prospect. A Bruins fan would probably ask for a medium to high 1st and an A prospect
26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 43
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Swap the 2nd out for a 3rd or Mastrosimone (since he won't sign with Detroit) and I'm content.
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26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 46
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Pinto+
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What is he worth? Depends who you ask. My opinion, a medium to low 1st and B prospect. A Bruins fan would probably ask for a medium to high 1st and an A prospect


I don’t think I’ve ever seen a goalie go for like a Pinto and a 1st type return unless he was a franchise goalie
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26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 48
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Yeah idk man. Ideally I’d love if Ottawa can grab either the 8th or 9th overall with Washington or Detroit in a sign and trade. And then sign someone like Bertuzzi , get a 3rd liner and sign a goalie or trade for one. But we’ll see

You’d have to think that debrincat is worth considerably less now than he was a year ago
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26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 49
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You’d have to think that debrincat is worth considerably less now than he was a year ago


I disagree. Everyone knows the Sens lost Josh Norris to a season injury and Cat had issues adjusting to a new city
26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 51
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I disagree. Everyone knows the Sens lost Josh Norris to a season injury and Cat had issues adjusting to a new city

To me that’s a very biased look. He had a down year, and no longer has that attractive cheap year attached to him. Not only should it be less, it should be considerably less
26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 54
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I disagree. Everyone knows the Sens lost Josh Norris to a season injury and Cat had issues adjusting to a new city


Would personally say that his price is slightly worse/near the same for intradivision tbh.
26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 55
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To me that’s a very biased look. He had a down year, and no longer has that attractive cheap year attached to him. Not only should it be less, it should be considerably less


Don't forget, he could hold out for the QO for 9 million. Then UFA. Value drops even more.
26 avr. 2023 à 17 h 59
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Would personally say that his price is slightly worse/near the same for intradivision tbh.


One year at 6.4m and rfa rights after a 41 goal season (and 31 in 52 the previous year), vs just the rfa rights with a 9m QO coming off a 27 goal campaign….are you kidding me?
26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 6
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Doubt if M NTC Ullmark has Ottawa on his 15 team trade list. There are UFA going available and even Swayman or Samsonov could offer sheeted.
Wings can wait a year and spend that cap on some UFA without giving up two valuable picks.
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26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 7
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Would personally say that his price is slightly worse/near the same for intradivision tbh.


I think if he’s moved, it’s going to be a sign trade to either a metro team or Detroit for a top 20 pick this year and a couple of other pieces.

If he’s not in Ottawa, he likely wants to be somewhere in eastern USA
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26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 8
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One year at 6.4m and rfa rights after a 41 goal season (and 31 in 52 the previous year), vs just the rfa rights with a 9m QO coming off a 27 goal campaign….are you kidding me?


Gonna be funny when he’s on a 1 year deal and everyone wants him at the deadline when he’s over 30 goals at the deadline already
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26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 8
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Considering boston has 10.5 mil in cap space then subtract the 4.5 mil penalty for david Kricji and patrice bergeron, i dont think Boston is in a particular good spot for demanding anything other than this offer. they have to get swayman signed and have some holes to fill
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Considering boston has 10.5 mil in cap space then subtract the 4.5 mil penalty for david Kricji and patrice bergeron, i dont think Boston is in a particular good spot for demanding anything other than this offer. they have to get swayman signed and have some holes to fill


Yeah the cap is rough so they’d have to move pieces that are moveable to make room which leaves Debrusk/Hall/Ullmark
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26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 14
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Gonna be funny when he’s on a 1 year deal and everyone wants him at the deadline when he’s over 30 goals at the deadline already


I don’t see where the humor would be.

That would be an entirely different situation. Though he’s still not getting a top ten pick
26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 15
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Detroit gladly accepts!
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I don’t see where the humor would be.

That would be an entirely different situation. Though he’s still not getting a top ten pick


Tbh after the first 6 guys, my 7-18 is pretty wide open. So I’d be okay with a pick anywhere between 14 and 18 and 1 more roster player / prospect
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26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 22
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a goalie go for like a Pinto and a 1st type return unless he was a franchise goalie


The age difference alone makes Pinto more valuable and add in his 20g in his first full season. No possible way is Ullmark worth Pinto and a 1st.
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26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 29
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Doubt if M NTC Ullmark has Ottawa on his 15 team trade list. There are UFA going available and even Swayman or Samsonov could offer sheeted.
Wings can wait a year and spend that cap on some UFA without giving up two valuable picks.


I wouldn't put any eggs in that basket. Unless you have him on the record saying I'm going to Detroit when I become a UFA, I wouldn't count on it.

I've heard that said about Michigan born players far too many times and have never seen it actually happen.
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I wouldn't put any eggs in that basket. Unless you have him on the record saying I'm going to Detroit when I become a UFA, I wouldn't count on it.

I've heard that said about Michigan born players far too many times and have never seen it actually happen.


I think with Detroit trading Hronek and Bertuzzi , they’ve pretty much made it clear the focus is now on adding picks and prospects and pushing the competitive window back a couple years. Which makes sense, because if they kept the same team , they were on their way to build a mid team. But now they have a chance to add elite talent
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26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 36
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Swap the 2nd out for a 3rd or Mastrosimone (since he won't sign with Detroit) and I'm content.


I think it's fine the way it is especially since we are getting an RHD as well.
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26 avr. 2023 à 18 h 37
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I think it's fine the way it is especially since we are getting an RHD as well.


Yeah I know, but I'd be even more content maximizing Mastrosimone.
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