Too much filler including a cap dump and no quality going to Winnipeg outside the first giving the Jets no incentive to consider this.

overpay for a 2c

Stop trolling every MTL team that put up possibilities for a Dubois trade... Your expectations of a Dubois trade and the returns are off the mark ..

And saying Hoffman is a cap dump at that price is really funny.

tell me about it. jesus. absolute imbecile.

winnipeg has no leverage and PLD is not that good to be giving up our premium assets for

He has expectations that Dubois will give him 2X 1st top 3 picks, and three top quality prospects. He keeps posting on every WIN trade’s expecting miracles for Winnipeg who have problems bringing in players to the city… unfortunately.

And I think I’m overpaying at that price, thinking Hugues may want to ensure he keeps some good relationships with GMs by giving fair offer to Chev and the Jets.

In another thread today while browsing PLD trades, i saw he suggested that PLD is better than horvat

his head is twisted on differently from the rest of us methinks

He won't post his own PLD ACGM's cause he knows they will get torn to shreds by every fanbase on this site including his own Jets fans.

he doesn't post ACGM's at all. the only one he ever has posted got ripped apart.

he's self aware. he knows he's a homer.

I’m for respectful exchanges, say what you think without insults or downplaying every thing or posting “X team rejects.” and not saying why is the most trolling aspect of most people on the site. He just keeps on adding to every post that implicate Win saying everyone has a bad trade. Omg…

Those that will exchange and give out their opinions on why a trade is off or which piece could be removed, added or switched will let us want to come back here. Else it just becomes a freaking “ignore list” challenge.. And those that troll will still continue to see and post and troll.

It's not expactation but fixation the guy is an absolute H !

For me this kind of dude is why Internet is crashing.

I'd rather do a 1000 Dubois trades until he understands where he lands. (bin)

its always

"winnipeg has no incentive to do this"
"dubois will cost you more than horvat"
"it will take more than a bunch of low end prospects.."
"these players are cap dumps"

and if you challenge him enough, he'll add you to his ignore list then report you.
he has no means of actually absorbing anything else anyone says, it's only his way or the highway.
ive proved to him why dubois isnt THAT good, and he just ignored me after.

never met someone as unique as this specimen in my life

A lot of these Dubois moves are so filled with speculation, jets basically have three decisions to be made this summer with helly/Dubois/scheifele all entering there last year of team control. So if it comes to moving on from all three, the buying to resell is not that great of an approach, better way would be some players with more team control or adding draft capital in future drafts. So the adds of anderson/Hoffman/armia aren’t really a plus to the jets at the moment. Some of the other adds that aren’t that far ahead of random waiver wire, don’t move the arrow a whole lot either. Got to beat at least what the jets can’t buy for themselves in free agency to add a benefit to the deal. Dubois deal basically goes back to a 1st 2nd and 3rd over three drafts and possibly some cap back, or some equivalent of that starting point. Not a bunch of guys that could walk in another year or don’t want to be there anyway.

Just for reference @Windjammer has said at many times that beck and 2023 florida's 1st with dvorak is a good deal as is so I don't know where you get the 2 top 3 picks. there's a difference between saying a deal wont work because the pieces in the deal don't make sense and just lack of value. If the jets trade him as a rental they can expect a similar package to horvat which isn't that farfetched (dubois may get a letter pick but the other aspects may compensate for that) so why is him saying a deal isn't good such a big deal when jets fans base the minimum deal as the rental deal and if the other assets with the first aren't attractive then we can go elsewhere to

his values are all over the place.

he'll tell you that Beck and a 1st is enough, then in another thread, he'll tell you that you need to base a PLD trade off the Horvat trade, then keep adding.
he's also stated that PLD was better than both Suzuki and Horvat which is why a PLD trade should include a teams entire draft capitol.
every prospect added is a C/D prospect to him unless they were drafted in the first ten picks, even then, it's still not good enough.

he gets clowned because he's a massive homer. this isn't a surprise.

i think people on this site would have no issue with him if he actually used reasoning, and was open to hearing out different opinions. if you back him into a corner and poke holes in his logic, he just ignores you and carries on dropping massive homer takes in every reply, unwilling to hear anyone out.
then everyone else, to him, are just "trolls"

that being said. he is brain whipped into believing WPG has all the leverage in a PLD move. when they have none. it's either they take the final package Hughes is willing to offer, or he walks to montreal when he's a UFA.
"b-but, PLD is an RFA... you guys need to realize that!"
okay? and? that does nothing in terms of the situation PLD has left with WPG.

PLD, at current value, could net WPG A MID-LATE 1st, and a C prospect.
Even then, we don't know if Hughes is willing to do that. And we know other teams won't either, because of the whole controversy.

Montreal fans when another team won't just give them a 24 year old almost ppg center for christian dvorak and some ahlers. 😲😡

The biggest homer from the Forks continues to get responses. It is funny, I admit. The filler is meaningless. You can send Hoffman down to the minors at practically the same cost. Gurianov you dont qualify.

This trade is essentially Farrell and the Cats 1st and Mtl never considers this.

Jets will get at most the Cats 1st and a b prospect like Ylonen, Heineman with a roster player like Armia or Dvorak. No rental price matches that!

He had his price at Beck, Florida 1st and Dach 3 weeks ago. Then the Friedman report and now its Owen Beck, Cats 1st, 2nd rnd picks and/or Barron. He has no clue. He already badly guessed the Laine return. How someone can speak so confidently despite never being correct and in every thread is mind boggling. The guy needs a life!



He did in the responses. Dach, Beck, Florida 1st 3 weeks ago before the Friedman report without their being much attn to these proposals. Its out there. Delusional doesnt begin to describe his thinking

Literally.. no one here has done that. Every ACGM i've seen has offered the Florida 1st or better.
But continue making false equivalencies.
Protecting this jets fan, aint it, buddy boy.
He's only going to get tagged endlessly once the trade happens and embarrassed yet again til he waits a week or two for the board to cool off then he will be asking for 5 1sts plus for Scheifele and praise him as a consistent 40 goal scorer when Mark scored 40 for the 1st time this season same as you saying PLD being PPG when he has NEVER EVER been a PPG player.

Sean Farrell is the Habs 2nd best prospect according to Scott Wheeler and the Cats pick will top20. Not only is that a ton of value without the resell but it is more than the rental price and Mtl doesn’t even need to meet that price. The PLDrama will be settled before next season. You take the best offer. End of story. Move on. Resell value or none. This is value today that exceeds the reach of PLD.

If Winnipeg gets a legit top6 playmaker that is compared to players like Marner and a mid 1st. That would be shocking for Hughes to make such a shortsighted move when PLD can be had for free in a year. PLD won’t be getting Farrell and a 1st.

Looking at the filler pieces isn’t here not there. You got blinded by the smoke without looking at the fire.

Hence the picks and prospects. Hoffman/Armia would be loaners at low cost who would perform to get that next contract. Anderson becomes a power forward with years attached. If people don’t see this then they are blind.

We’re not talking about Helly or Scheifele since they have not come out to target a potential team like Dubois did.

And Chev will have a headache with arbitration if he wants to keep Dubois and know he needs a return on him. But he won’t get the max because of the comments.

Winnipeg fans who think they’ll get max return on the one guy who spoke his mind in the media and comeback with Dvorak and AHLers.. That 1St pick in 2023 is worth tons at this point.

If you don’t know Farrell’s value is right now then it explains the comments.. Pezz is a basic 4th liner that gives grits which WIN will need.. Hoffman will play hard for his next contract and the rest can be handled internally or be added to another trade to get picks back.

The numbers of dubois and horvat do not match up at all Not only does HorvaT Sciore more goals and points but he is great on faceoffs and great defensively which dubois is not and he is a captain... There is no close comparison between the two and that is the truth and what the numbers say....

truth is that unless chevy gets desparate mtl should just wait and draft a great player at 17 and get what dubois demands are in the off season..