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Équipe: 2023-24 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 13 mars 2023
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13 mars 2023 à 0 h 46
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Yet this team will still make it out of the first round before the Leafs do ):
13 mars 2023 à 0 h 57
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laugh laugh You'd have to pay us, To take Seth Jones off of your hands.
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13 mars 2023 à 1 h 3
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Seider has the 1RD spot sewn up so bringing in a $9.5M 2RD doesn't make much sense. Detroit would be more likely to use those assets to trade up for Fantilli than to trade in Jones.
13 mars 2023 à 1 h 36
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If Columbus has the second overall pick, they take Fantilli themselves. Zero chance Jarmo trades down unless Columbus ends up out of the top three.
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13 mars 2023 à 6 h 5
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Wings not taking on the Jones deal and definitely not for that.
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13 mars 2023 à 6 h 51
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No chance in hell that Detroit takes Seth Jones contract off your books AND pays 2 1sts to do it.
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13 mars 2023 à 8 h 43
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Neither DET nor CBJ consider these proposals for even a second.

CBJ has been desperately searching for a 1C for their entire 22 year existence. They aren’t about to pass up on one now if they finally get some lottery luck and land a top-2 pick. You would have to move heaven and earth to pry that pick away from Jarmo. For that pick to be traded it would have to absolutely wreck your franchise.
13 mars 2023 à 9 h 1
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Quoting: Dark_Matter
Seider has the 1RD spot sewn up so bringing in a $9.5M 2RD doesn't make much sense. Detroit would be more likely to use those assets to trade up for Fantilli than to trade in Jones.


Quoting: DeadWingsv2
No chance in hell that Detroit takes Seth Jones contract off your books AND pays 2 1sts to do it.


Quoting: mikearky
Wings not taking on the Jones deal and definitely not for that.


Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
laugh laugh You'd have to pay us, To take Seth Jones off of your hands.


DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.
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13 mars 2023 à 9 h 9
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Quoting: Wadejos123
DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.


Ok so 2 firsts and a capdump for a player that'd be 2nd pairing and overpaid.
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13 mars 2023 à 9 h 19
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Ok so 2 firsts and a capdump for a player that'd be 2nd pairing and overpaid.


Hawks aren't trading Jones. He will be named the next captain when Toews (likely) leaves this summer
13 mars 2023 à 9 h 29
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Hawks aren't trading Jones. He will be named the next captain when Toews (likely) leaves this summer


Doesn't affect me so cool cool
13 mars 2023 à 9 h 32
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Quoting: Wadejos123
DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.


Actual stats seem to heavily disagree with your opinion:
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13 mars 2023 à 9 h 37
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Quoting: Wadejos123
DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.

FWIW, I'm not saying he's a cap dump, but he IS overpaid and that contract IS a negative. Just like Erik Karlsson, who is likely going to win the Norris this season, a guy can be a good to great player and and still have a bad contract...
13 mars 2023 à 10 h 7
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Whoever does not take Matvei Michkov at #2 will be making a huge mistake. There I said it.
13 mars 2023 à 11 h 39
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Quoting: squashmaple
If Columbus has the second overall pick, they take Fantilli themselves. Zero chance Jarmo trades down unless Columbus ends up out of the top three.


Almost a Zero chance Jarmo has a job at draft time
13 mars 2023 à 12 h 1
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Almost a Zero chance Jarmo has a job at draft time


Why? Because the team had a bad season when dealt a **** ton of injuries, and now they're about to get an elite player in the draft?
13 mars 2023 à 12 h 37
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Actual stats seem to heavily disagree with your opinion:
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https://twitter.com/ARHockeyStats/status/1634947365437308929?s=20

Depends where you get your stats from I guess....
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13 mars 2023 à 12 h 42
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Quoting: Bellashmella
Almost a Zero chance Jarmo has a job at draft time


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Why? Because the team had a bad season when dealt a **** ton of injuries, and now they're about to get an elite player in the draft?


It's just wishful thinking. Jarmo has been devastating the Blackhawks for years now and their fans just want the bad man out of the NHL.
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13 mars 2023 à 13 h 39
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It's just wishful thinking. Jarmo has been devastating the Blackhawks for years now and their fans just want the bad man out of the NHL.


I would say that the Hawks are the 'bad men' and they should be out of the NHL. Somehow Bettman has given them a pass bigger than his pet team in Arizona.
13 mars 2023 à 13 h 42
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Actual stats seem to heavily disagree with your opinion


Those stats are heavily effected by the first few months of the season. If you isolate how he has played since the new year, and even more so since the all star break, he is playing much better than that player card would have you believe. He has been playing like a bonafide number one defenseman. Whether he can continue that trend into next season and beyond, only time will tell.

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13 mars 2023 à 13 h 49
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Those stats are heavily effected by the first few months of the season. If you isolate how he has played since the new year, and even more so since the all star break, he is playing much better than that player card would have you believe. He has been playing like a bonafide number one defenseman. Whether he can continue that trend into next season and beyond, only time will tell.


This paints a prettier picture, but it doesn't paint the picture of a man I want to risk attaching 9.5M to for the next 7 years... with a full NMC.
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13 mars 2023 à 13 h 56
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This paints a prettier picture, but it doesn't paint the picture of a man I want to risk attaching 9.5M to for the next 7 years... with a full NMC.


Sure. Not trying to sell him to you. Unless his on ice performance becomes consistently elite and he asks for a trade, he will be in CHI for the duration of his contract. I have liked him more than I thought I would. Just saying there is a lot of hate floating around about Jones that isn't warranted. It isn't his fault Stan Bowman is a moron and gave up way too much to acquire him and then overpaid him. But, also, within a few years, a $9.5M contract will be pretty commonplace.
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13 mars 2023 à 14 h 3
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Sure. Not trying to sell him to you. Unless his on ice performance becomes consistently elite and he asks for a trade, he will be in CHI for the duration of his contract. I have liked him more than I thought I would. Just saying there is a lot of hate floating around about Jones that isn't warranted. It isn't his fault Stan Bowman is a moron and gave up way too much to acquire him and then overpaid him. But, also, within a few years, a $9.5M contract will be pretty commonplace.


Yeah, the player always gets the flack for an idiotic GM. We know that all too well from the Ken Holland era in Detroit.
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13 mars 2023 à 14 h 4
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Quoting: Bellashmella
Almost a Zero chance Jarmo has a job at draft time


Well, you clearly know more about Columbus than me so I'll defer to your expertise. In any case, no GM no matter who he is of the Columbus Blue Jackets--a team which as you as an expert know has never had a 1c in its entire 222 year history--is going to trade down from a top two pick in the 2023 NHL entry draft.
13 mars 2023 à 22 h 59
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Quoting: Wadejos123
DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.


Quoting: Garak
Sure. Not trying to sell him to you. Unless his on ice performance becomes consistently elite and he asks for a trade, he will be in CHI for the duration of his contract. I have liked him more than I thought I would. Just saying there is a lot of hate floating around about Jones that isn't warranted. It isn't his fault Stan Bowman is a moron and gave up way too much to acquire him and then overpaid him. But, also, within a few years, a $9.5M contract will be pretty commonplace.


My bad guys, didn’t mean for a ****post to devolve into this whole thing. I thought the title and trade were obviously unserious.
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