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Créé par: Jetman
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 3 mars 2023
Publié: 6 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Vladdy is signed if Lucius or Lambert dont make it in camp
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
1900 000 $
76 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Dach, Kirby
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Ext signed
2.
WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
3.
WPG
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Schmidt, Nate (1 450 000 $ retained)
4.
ANA
  1. Stanley, Logan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $70 494 941 $0 $1 425 000 $12 005 059 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 3
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
918 333 $918 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 456 250 $1 456 250 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1

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6 mars 2023 à 10 h 23
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Don't think Pionk is the type of RHD we need. Don't see a reason to ship out Rico and a 2nd for the second coming of Klingberg and Stanley, who I'm interested in, for cheap.
6 mars 2023 à 10 h 30
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if there an extension signed for Dubois you should have him signed first with a price tag then flip him, but for such return Hellebuyck should be added too! Meier didn't receive as much as your asking here.
6 mars 2023 à 10 h 37
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
if there an extension signed for Dubois you should have him signed first with a price tag then flip him, but for such return Hellebuyck should be added too! Meier didn't receive as much as your asking here.


Est-ce que c'est le retour des joueurs qui joue pour les Habs reçois 200% plus de valeur? Ceci n'est pas fonctionner la dernière TDL alors pourquoi vas-t-il fonctionner ce TDL.

Le retour de Dubois est: 1 1st, Dach (qui est égal a un 1st et peut un 3rd) and Barron qui est égal a un 2nd. Vraiment similaire retour qui était reçu pour Chychrun
6 mars 2023 à 10 h 53
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
if there an extension signed for Dubois you should have him signed first with a price tag then flip him, but for such return Hellebuyck should be added too! Meier didn't receive as much as your asking here.


Quoting: Leafsfan98
Est-ce que c'est le retour des joueurs qui joue pour les Habs reçois 200% plus de valeur? Ceci n'est pas fonctionner la dernière TDL alors pourquoi vas-t-il fonctionner ce TDL.

Le retour de Dubois est: 1 1st, Dach (qui est égal a un 1st et peut un 3rd) and Barron qui est égal a un 2nd. Vraiment similaire retour qui était reçu pour Chychrun


In my note, I put that an ext is signed...lol

Meier could easily be a rental for NJD if they cant match the 10M
6 mars 2023 à 11 h 0
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In my note, I put that an ext is signed...lol

Meier could easily be a rental for NJD if they cant match the 10M


Even still, Montreal is not giving up 3 premium assets for PLD when there is a good chance we can sign him without giving up said assets. The ask here is beyond anything Montreal would be willing to do.
6 mars 2023 à 11 h 10
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
if there an extension signed for Dubois you should have him signed first with a price tag then flip him, but for such return Hellebuyck should be added too! Meier didn't receive as much as your asking here.


Who do you think helley is
6 mars 2023 à 11 h 16
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Quoting: Jetman
In my note, I put that an ext is signed...lol

Meier could easily be a rental for NJD if they cant match the 10M


Agreed! Just trying to explain to the Habs fans that it's a similar package to what Chychrun got when you put it in perspective
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6 mars 2023 à 11 h 21
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Habs ain't paying anything close to that, you're better off trading him half retaind to a contender
6 mars 2023 à 11 h 25
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Agreed! Just trying to explain to the Habs fans that it's a similar package to what Chychrun got when you put it in perspective


Exactly...teams will trade for a full year for that price anyways but if MTL can get him extended locked in, why not. Dach isnt needed per se if PLD goes there and those picks/prospects are what any team would give up
6 mars 2023 à 12 h 8
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Agreed! Just trying to explain to the Habs fans that it's a similar package to what Chychrun got when you put it in perspective


Chychrun wasn't a pending UFA. Meier and Horvat would be far better comps.
6 mars 2023 à 12 h 11
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Quoting: Jetman
Exactly...teams will trade for a full year for that price anyways but if MTL can get him extended locked in, why not. Dach isnt needed per se if PLD goes there and those picks/prospects are what any team would give up


Well by that logic since you have Connor, Niederreiter and Ehlers you should be fine tossing Perfetti into any trade proposal right? If that's the price for PLD then we'll just let him go elsewhere.
6 mars 2023 à 12 h 13
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Montreal and Anaheim aren't even considering those trades, come on.

Quoting: Jetman
Exactly...teams will trade for a full year for that price anyways but if MTL can get him extended locked in, why not. Dach isnt needed per se if PLD goes there and those picks/prospects are what any team would give up


That's still more than any comparable recent trade. You're asking for:

1) A 22 year old former 3rd OA pick who is starting to put it together at the NHL level.
2) A 21 year old former 1st round pick.
3) A later lottery pick in a deep draft.

That is, by some margin, more than Meier, Chychrun and Horvat cost. You're getting closer to the Eichel price-tag with that proposal, even if its not the same quality.

Montreal's main interest in Dubois would be because he reportedly wants to sign in Montreal. They'd be willing to accelerate that process, but they're rebuilding, they are not going to overpay for that privilege. And its pretty clear that if you want to take that little salary back, you're not going to have a robust market for him.
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6 mars 2023 à 12 h 39
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Quoting: LumberJacques
Chychrun wasn't a pending UFA. Meier and Horvat would be far better comps.


Neither is PLD...lol
6 mars 2023 à 12 h 42
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Quoting: LumberJacques
Well by that logic since you have Connor, Niederreiter and Ehlers you should be fine tossing Perfetti into any trade proposal right? If that's the price for PLD then we'll just let him go elsewhere.


If I was getting PLD or the like back, I sure would. Perfetti will be good, Dach will/is getting good...But PLD is good
6 mars 2023 à 13 h 2
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Quoting: Jetman
In my note, I put that an ext is signed...lol

Meier could easily be a rental for NJD if they cant match the 10M


what is the price wink !
6 mars 2023 à 13 h 4
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Est-ce que c'est le retour des joueurs qui joue pour les Habs reçois 200% plus de valeur? Ceci n'est pas fonctionner la dernière TDL alors pourquoi vas-t-il fonctionner ce TDL.

Le retour de Dubois est: 1 1st, Dach (qui est égal a un 1st et peut un 3rd) and Barron qui est égal a un 2nd. Vraiment similaire retour qui était reçu pour Chychrun


non la valeur de Dubois est celle de Meier et non Dach n'est aucunement un Zetterlund.
6 mars 2023 à 13 h 4
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Agreed! Just trying to explain to the Habs fans that it's a similar package to what Chychrun got when you put it in perspective


Or the Patrick Kane package... That's the way when a player want to play or trade for only one team...
6 mars 2023 à 13 h 5
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Neither is PLD...lol


As of July 1st he will have 1 year of team control left, that's what a pending UFA is.
6 mars 2023 à 13 h 15
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If I was getting PLD or the like back, I sure would. Perfetti will be good, Dach will/is getting good...But PLD is good


Yes, the Jets' current core is in their prime and all but guaranteed to make the playoffs so trading potential for certainty makes sense. MTL on the other hand are rebuilding, so trading away 2 current 21-22 year old current NHL players plus a likely top 15 (maybe even top 10) pick in a deep draft for a guy who might come for free in a year anyways doesn't make much sense.
6 mars 2023 à 14 h 17
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non la valeur de Dubois est celle de Meier et non Dach n'est aucunement un Zetterlund.


Sauf que le QO de Meier est a 10 million de dollars. Aussi, tu dois te rappeler que les Devils ont reçu 1 1st et un autre opportunité a un deuxième et un 2nd. Meme si Dach a plus de valeur que Zetterlund, il est la valeur de 1 1st, Zetterlund et Mukamaudilin, non?
6 mars 2023 à 14 h 21
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Or the Patrick Kane package... That's the way when a player want to play or trade for only one team...


The difference here though is that MTL wouldn't be the only team wanting to trade for PLD... In the end, Winnipeg could just give him the bag for him to stay (10 mill by 8). Kane wasn't going to resign in CHI and had a NMC and said he was only going to waive it for a trade to the Rangers whereas PLD doesn't have that option
6 mars 2023 à 18 h 34
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
The difference here though is that MTL wouldn't be the only team wanting to trade for PLD... In the end, Winnipeg could just give him the bag for him to stay (10 mill by 8). Kane wasn't going to resign in CHI and had a NMC and said he was only going to waive it for a trade to the Rangers whereas PLD doesn't have that option


PLD won't sign long term even if they offer 13 millions per season, the family want to be close to home and direly wish to land in Montreal to live their live. As for the huge asking price for RFA right I need to see the last 5 trades to understand the value cuz seriously Jetman is way off the chart.
 
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