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How bad do you want boeser traded

Créé par: SMH
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 6 févr. 2023
Publié: 6 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Armia, Joel
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Who will have to add ? Both player's have little to no value because of their contract, both player's have the same term and armia saves the canucks 3.25M a year on the cap hit, (Canucks are trying to free cap)
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 8
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Neither player/contract is desirable but Boeser at least has bounce back potential
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 10
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Maybe Dovarak and a pick is a fair swap
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 10
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Quoting: DarcyTucker
Neither player/contract is desirable but Boeser at least has bounce back potential


Armia has all the talent in the world , they're actually the same in that category too
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 11
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Quoting: JohnJohnson
Maybe Dovarak and a pick is a fair swap


Dvorak isn't available, and montreal aren't looking to get rid of him or trade him for a winger
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: SMH
Armia has all the talent in the world , they're actually the same in that category too


well if they have the same talent, armia choose to never use it, thats why boeser is much more valuable.
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: SMH
Armia has all the talent in the world , they're actually the same in that category too


He said bounce back. What would armia be bouncing back to? His 30 point career high? Boeser actually has had some success in this league.
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: SMH
Dvorak isn't available, and montreal aren't looking to get rid of him or trade him for a winger


That’s just absurd. He’s a bad contract, of course he should be available.
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 14
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Lmao @ little to no value for Boeser
Obviously this is a Montreal fan

Quoting: SMH
Armia has all the talent in the world , they're actually the same in that category too


Boeser is 25
Armia is 30 and is declining lmao
They certainly are not in the same category
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 15
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Quoting: drambui
well if they have the same talent, armia choose to never use it, thats why boeser is much more valuable.


I wouldn't say never, one is a few games armia turns into a beast and gets everyone's hope up then he disappears again
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 18
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Quoting: Canucks123
Lmao little to no value for Boeser
Obviously this is a Montreal fan



Boeser is 25
Armia is 30 and is declining lmao
They certainly are not in the same category


Read this article from frank seravalli, I'm not trying to start an argument i am simply looking at this amd thought maybe armia swap could help both trams
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1622638778618724355?t=epzwyP8NY6ESAuhiWGSDRg&s=19
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 18
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Il can appreciate the connection you made between the 2 right wingers, but both teams would want to trade them away to free capspace. Not good trade partners.
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 19
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Quoting: SMH
Armia has all the talent in the world , they're actually the same in that category too


The same category of bad players. He may have all the talent in the world according to you, but he's gonna turn 30 soon and exit his prime so it's useless talent.
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 20
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Il can appreciate the connection you made between the 2 right wingers, but both teams would want to trade them away to free capspace. Not good trade partners.


In my head i see it as montreal taking more cap but a better player and Vancouver take on a worst player but save a ton of cap hit
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 21
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Quoting: SMH
I wouldn't say never, one is a few games armia turns into a beast and gets everyone's hope up then he disappears again


sure, like most nhl players, armia have raw talent and we see glimpse every now and then. but by now we know we can never expect armia to put the numbers boeser does.
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 22
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In my head i see it as montreal taking more cap but a better player and Vancouver take on a worst player but save a ton of cap hit


the thing is vancouver could just retain half on boeser and get a way better package than armia so it makes no sense for them to do it. the idea just doesnt work in this scenario.
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 31
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the thing is vancouver could just retain half on boeser and get a way better package than armia so it makes no sense for them to do it. the idea just doesnt work in this scenario.


If they retain half on him and having to get a replacement for him they don't save cap which is something they're trying to do...
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 34
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If they retain half on him and having to get a replacement for him they don't save cap which is something they're trying to do...


a replacement for an arma equivalent would cost league minimum. they have cap space for that.
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 51
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Add a 1st and the Canucks consider. Armia is completely useless, Boeser is having a bad year and still playing at a 60 point pace
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6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 56
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In my head i see it as montreal taking more cap but a better player and Vancouver take on a worst player but save a ton of cap hit


I cant see Montreal doubling down on a bad contract and spending nearly 19M on RW for 2 rebuilding years. The +3M caphit would be better spent elsewhere.
6 févr. 2023 à 18 h 57
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Add a 1st and the Canucks consider. Armia is completely useless, Boeser is having a bad year and still playing at a 60 point pace


Read the recent frank seravlli article
6 févr. 2023 à 19 h 1
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Armia has a massive advantage over Boeser in how his contract is structured.

If both are bought out next years cap hit (which is the most important thing ) is only 33K for armia. Less than 4 million total over the 4 years. The big year is year 3 which by then the cap goes up.

By comparison Boeser buyout cap hit is 2.2 million next year.
6 févr. 2023 à 19 h 1
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Armia has a massive advantage over Boeser in how his contract is structured.

If both are bought out next years cap hit (which is the most important thing ) is only 33K for armia. Less than 4 million total over the 4 years. The big year is year 3 which by then the cap goes up.

By comparison Boeser buyout cap hit is 2.2 million next year.
6 févr. 2023 à 19 h 3
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Read the recent frank seravlli article


He said the value for Boeser is likely between a 2nd and 3rd. You then have to factor in Armia’s negative value. A 1st is probably the minimum add if you want Boeser while dumping Armia
6 févr. 2023 à 22 h 22
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They save cap sure, but gain nothing but cap space. They could easily just retain 50% of Boeser and actually get a good asset back and have just as much cap saving as with the Armia trade. So basically it makes no sense for Vancouver to do this.
6 févr. 2023 à 23 h 7
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Quoting: SMH
Read this article from frank seravalli, I'm not trying to start an argument i am simply looking at this amd thought maybe armia swap could help both trams
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1622638778618724355?t=epzwyP8NY6ESAuhiWGSDRg&s=19


doubt the trade would help both teams in a armia swap
armia is aging and will decline soon
canucks are trying to get younger
and I wouldn't pay too much attention to these articles lol
he prob wouldn't even be moved until the summer if he does
 
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