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Créé par: LeafsDaBest

Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2023

Publié: 25 janv. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Transactions

TOR

Anderson, Josh (2 750 000 $ retained)

MTL

Niemelä, Topi
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)

TOR

Schenn, Luke

VAN

Kerfoot, Alexander
Liljegren, Timothy
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	79 986 246 $	212 500 $	0 $	2 513 754 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bunting, Michael 950 000 $950 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 3	Anderson, Josh 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 4	Kämpf, David 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C UFA - 1	Engvall, Pierre 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Aston-Reese, Zach 840 630 $840 630 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Holmberg, Pontus 827 500 $827 500 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Simmonds, Wayne 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
McMann, Bobby 762 500 $762 500 $ AD, AG UFA - 2		Anderson, Joey 750 000 $750 000 $ AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 8	Schenn, Luke 850 000 $850 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Timmins, Conor 850 000 $850 000 $ DD RFA - 1
Benn, Jordie 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 2	Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 2
		Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 2
		Mete, Victor 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 26

Hammerwise

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I think they both accept. I know MTL doesn;t want to retain forever, but I remain convinced Anderson is not a top 6 forward, and TOR is worse off in that exchange. And VAN would bite your hand off for that Schenn offer

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 28

LeafsDaBest

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Quoting: Hammerwise

Anderson would be a good top 6 player if he was on a good team. Montreal brings everyone's production down. Vancouver gets a young defenseman for a pending ufa

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 30

Rage44

Rejoint: janv. 2022

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TOR makes lateral moves now (at best), and gets worse in the future... makes sense...

TML4486 a aimé ceci.

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 31

Campabee

Rejoint: nov. 2018

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I don't think the Habs can feasibly retain that long on Anderson, The offer might be great but the length of the retention is too long. I think the Habs would rather take back a bad contract and/or add a little than retaining for that long.

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 31

remowilliams

Rejoint: déc. 2018

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Quoting: Hammerwise

Canucks have no cap.We can not make that trade.

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 31

LeafsDaBest

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Quoting: TML_Bias

TOR makes lateral moves now (at best), and gets worse in the future... makes sense...

Both of those moves improve them right now

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 32

mikeg93

Rejoint: juin 2021

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Right type of players, don't see Schenn fetching anything close to that. I think Niemela is the guy to move for Toronto to fetch at top 6 forward. Lilijgren has been their most consistent d-man, so that would be a no-go.

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 34

Rage44

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Quoting: Cameron

Both of those moves improve them right now

Anderson may be an upgrade over Kerfoot -- but different roles.
Schenn is not an upgrade over Liljegren. He hits, and is bigger. But can't skate at a top 4 level.

To give up your top D prospect, 1st, 2nd to make these "upgrades" is laughable.

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 34

JaredOfLondon

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Yikes, anderson is a 30 point player who couldnt pass an open book test on defence and schenn isnt even 1/3 as good as liljegren.
Im half convinced this is a troll post

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 35

#10

literallychrissy

Rejoint: févr. 2022

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MTL and VAN both accept no question, Dubas would be fired if he made deals like this

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 35

#11

Easton_H

Rejoint: oct. 2021

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Canucks say yes and never look back.

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 35

#12

Leafsfan98

Leafs going to Leafs

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Trade 1: Anderson is a 3rd liner, not a superstar. If the Leafs made that offer, it would be for Horvat/O'Rielly/Tarasenko, not for a 3rd liner

Trade 2: That package would be for Chychrun, not for a worse version of Lilly (whom we are getting rid of in this scenario)

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 36

#13

TheRealisticGuy

Habs4Ever

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Quoting: Cameron

Both of those moves improve them right now

Liljegren is better than Schenn tho

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 36

#14

Leafsfan98

Leafs going to Leafs

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Quoting: TML_Bias

The funniest thing is: Anderson isn't an upgrade over Jarnkrok

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 37

#15

literallychrissy

Rejoint: févr. 2022

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Honestly these deals are NHL 23 rookie mode jokes.

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 37

#16

TheRealisticGuy

Habs4Ever

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

The funniest thing is: Anderson isn't an upgrade over Jarnkrok

Leafs fans lol

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 37

#17

Hammerwise

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Quoting: Cameron

Anderson would be a good top 6 player if he was on a good team. Montreal brings everyone's production down. Vancouver gets a young defenseman for a pending ufa

Anderson's best season was 47 pts in 2018-2019, in the 3 yrs after that he had 4pts in 26 games, 24 in 52, and 32 in 69 games, hes also a -52 over those seasons. He has just 17 pts in 46 games this year, hes not fast, doesn;t fight. I remain unconvinced hes a difference maker and I think you'd find nylander having to carry the puck and wait 20 seconds for tavares and anderson to catch up with him.

And VAN gladly takes liljegren and a 2nd for schenn.

But with the leafs losing Amirov to cancer and robertson tanking for a second season, trading a 1st, a 2nd, liljegren and niemala is probably a bad move, especially given the return above.

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 38

#18

Leafsfan98

Leafs going to Leafs

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Quoting: remowilliams

Canucks have no cap.We can not make that trade.

If Rutherford was made that offer, he would make cap for that

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 38

#19

Hammerwise

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Quoting: remowilliams

Canucks have no cap.We can not make that trade.

For that return? They'd find a way.

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 38

#20

literallychrissy

Rejoint: févr. 2022

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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy

Leafs fans lol

What do the Montreal ALouettes and the Habs have in common

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 39

#21

Leafsfan98

Leafs going to Leafs

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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy

Leafs fans lol

Fine, let me correct, for the position Anderson would play on that Tavares/Marner line, Jarnkrok would be a better fit... better?

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 39

#22

Rage44

Rejoint: janv. 2022

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

The funniest thing is: Anderson isn't an upgrade over Jarnkrok

Anderson has intangibles at least-- toughness, size, goal scoring. I still don't consider the trade in the slightest.

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 40

#23

mondo

torontos finest

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Liljegren has been the best defender on Toronto's right side - I'd say he's untouchable at this point.

No interest in Anderson and I would suspect the feeling may be mutual; he has a NTC and Toronto could be on it. Not to mention that 5 years of retention is a bit asinine.

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 40

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TheRealisticGuy

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Quoting: Hammerwise

Anderson's best season was 47 pts in 2018-2019, in the 3 yrs after that he had 4pts in 26 games, 24 in 52, and 32 in 69 games, hes also a -52 over those seasons. He has just 17 pts in 46 games this year, hes not fast, doesn;t fight. I remain unconvinced hes a difference maker and I think you'd find nylander having to carry the puck and wait 20 seconds for tavares and anderson to catch up with him.

And VAN gladly takes liljegren and a 2nd for schenn.

Anderson not fast LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA

Quick description of Josh Anderson :

Good : Skating, shot, hit, big body, can score goals, plays with heart

Bad : Zero hockey IQ, can't make a pass on the tape, can't play defense, injured prone

Unique player lmao

But with the leafs losing Amirov to cancer and robertson tanking for a second season, trading a 1st, a 2nd, liljegren and niemala is probably a bad move, especially given the return above.

25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 40

#25

LeafsDaBest

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

The funniest thing is: Anderson isn't an upgrade over Jarnkrok

Yes he is by far

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