Definitely not.

Stutzle, Raymond, Lafreniere, Mercer, Lundell, Jarvis, Drysdale, Perfetti, Schneider, Byfield, Sanderson, Guhle are 100% locks I'm taking over Quinn. Could even argue guys like Holtz and Askarov.

Stars Jets and Knights: Collapsing

Avs kings and Kraken: Our time is now mother f*ckers

Schneider, Guhle, Laf lol. Cmon man. Two 2nd pair D and Laf likely tops out as an average 2nd liner. Mercer is good but he won’t be on Quinn’s level. Quinn will put up multiple 40 goal seasons

Holtz isn’t good, goaltenders are voodoo

Actually Friedman was talking about it and it may not be the Sellers market we were all expecting as the rumblings and early noise has been quieter than last year (aka Buyers gonna be more reserved with who they go spend their assets on and all that). Theres a clip of him on a podcast talking about it

I hope its a nice mix and not just pure chaos one end of the other but lets see.

Barbashev is worth 3 Jarnkroks. Numbers don't lie.

That's quite the take. Right now, definitely not imo, in the future possibly.

didn't the leafs have to do this a couple years ago?

C'mon now. That's a ridiculous statement. Totally indefensible, except to say, well he will be better in the future haha.

I mean when Jarnkrok got a 2nd + 3rd + 7th he had 12 goals 14 assists in 49 gp

Rn Barbashev has 9 goals and 15 assists in 50 games. So if hes worth 3 Jarnkroks yea GM's gonna laugh and hang up. Yes Barbashev looked good last year but we all knew he was not gonna repeat that. Got to look at the big picture and honestly

A 2nd + 3rd and 7th for Barbashev is honestly pretty reasonable for the Blues

ok what exactly is mercer better at?

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How are you going to diss all of those players who are out producing Quinn and then say Quinn is the next coming of Jesus. Take the homer glasses off. He's Canadian so I hope he does well, but calm your horses. He doesn't go top 10 in a redraft.

Mercer was over a .5 PPG in his 20 YO season in the NHL. That's a very big take and it's nowhere close to true.

Hockey specifically.

He scored 60 points last season. He's way more physical. His cap hit and versatility makes him the most valuable Blue. Jarnkrok has never come close to 40 points and likely won't get there this season despite exposure to several elite offensive players. Barbashev is also gonna get a big raise this summer, while Jarnkrok just signed for $2.1M AAV. If Barbashevbrings the same return as Jarnkrok last year, all that says is that CGY way overpaid.

They are not outproducing Quinn by a lot and points are not the only way to evaluate a player , they lack context. Yeah I live in miami Florida and root for the islanders, definitely a homer! Whether you think he doesn't go top 10 is irrelevant, what is actually a good take is Quinn will be a top 5 or 6 player from that draft.

I see you're a big jfresh guy

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You think some stupid chart means anything? You're probably the only person on this entire site who would even attempt to argue that. Quinn is better that Mercer. I'm sure you can pull up 100 different charts that seem to show that Matt Barzal is worth anywhere close to $9.15M AAV. The fact is, he's a great skater who thinks defense is someone else's problem. And he disappears when his team needs him the most.

Lol, dude I just think Mercer is a better player. Mercer has a slighly better Point percentage, their both 21 let them develop a little before comparing. Analytics change every year and arent the best way to gauge a player who hasnt played multiple seasons yet . Neither Mercer or Quinn have garnered enough NHL time to really say who is/will be the better player.

A lot of Young NHL players either have completely terrible or very good analytics due to small sample sizes. Noah Cates has 90+ War when his card came out its now 69% (Nice).

If you wanna do the analytic game how about this, Ristolainen has better WAR than Pelech this year and better EV Defense. Is he better than Pelech of course not.

You mean Mat Barzal who has positive EVD and Def? He is not bad defensively...

I'm just saying it's a little odd to be so confident that mercer is a much better player when he up until this point he isn't better than Quinn at most aspects of the game.


ristolainen has been better defensively this season, WAR isn't accurate when evaluating defenseman. expected stats are better because defenseman do not control forwards shooting %. Pelech has him beat there.

Can you prove to me barzal has been a liability defensively this season? 'll admit im wrong if you can prove it, if not then stop acting like a tough guy and take a lap.

barzal singlehandedly carried the isles to 2 straight eastern conference finals - just because you get triggered by something doesn't mean you have to start making things up

Guess who is Quinn and who is Mercer:
(Quickly just looked up the stats, I have no bias to either one)
Player A
EVO: 5.3
Off: 5.4
EVD: 1.7
Def: 1.7
GAR: 8.8
WAR: 1.5
Points/60: 2.07
TOI: 13.4 mintues per game

Player B
EVO: 4.8
Off: 4.8
EVD: 0.6
Def: -1.2
GAR: 3.5
WAR: 0.6
Points/60: 2.29
TOI: 15.5 minutes per game

lol

Think B is Mercer. doesn't change my opinion on who is the better player. Mercer is better.

Ristolainen has been very good defensively, you have to give him credit