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We are reportedly linked to Mattias Ekholm according to the Fourth Period

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2023
Publié: 12 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I tried to make sense of it.

I can't.

If the Ekholm trade doesn't make sense for Ottawa, then the other two trades probably don't make sense for Ottawa either.
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  1. Ekholm, Mattias
  2. McKeown, Roland
Détails additionnels:
The Hampus Lindholm trade between Anaheim and Boston is used as a template to guess what Ekholm might be worth.
NSH
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
https://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade-watch-list-2023


https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/hampus-lindholm
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OTT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (DET)
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12 janv. 2023 à 12 h 35
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Preds need scoring. Would a DeBrincat/Ekholm as a base makes it more viable for the Preds and the Sens cap.
12 janv. 2023 à 12 h 59
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If it makes things easier, those trades don't make sense for Montreal or Detroit regardless.
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12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 5
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Quoting: palhal
Preds need scoring. Would a DeBrincat/Ekholm as a base makes it more viable for the Preds and the Sens cap.


Not worth it for ottawa unless the preds add one of Askarov/Kemell/Svechkov or any top prospect. Debrincat to Ekholm is too much of an age increase and Ekholm is being paid a good amount into his late 30s. So his value is closer to McDonagh than Debrincat
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12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 11
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Detroit are not buyers and there is no chance we're trading for a goalie at that
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12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 14
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Detroit are not buyers and there is no chance we're trading for a goalie at that


Didn't Detroit just spend a 3rd on Ville Husso when he could have been signed for free?
12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 34
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Didn't Detroit just spend a 3rd on Ville Husso when he could have been signed for free?


What makes you think that Detroit would've stood a chance of signing Husso as a FA? There's no guarantee of us signing him Toronto and other's would've made bids on him. This was the only way to guarantee that we would get him.
12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 39
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Didn't Detroit just spend a 3rd on Ville Husso when he could have been signed for free?

If anything, that just further reinforces my point - we already traded for our starter (who other teams were trying to trade for as well) and aren't trading for a backup. It makes zero sense.
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12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 48
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What makes you think that Detroit would've stood a chance of signing Husso as a FA? There's no guarantee of us signing him Toronto and other's would've made bids on him. This was the only way to guarantee that we would get him.


Whether Detroit would've stood a chance of signing Husso is beside the point.

The point is that the Wings grossly overpaid for something that had zero value to the other team.
12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 50
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Whether Detroit would've stood a chance of signing Husso is beside the point.

The point is that the Wings grossly overpaid for something that had zero value to the other team.


Sorry i don't consider a 3rd round pick as a gross overpay for Ville Husso, Considering that 3rd round picks have less than a 40% chance of ever making it to the NHL to begin with.
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12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 55
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Whether Detroit would've stood a chance of signing Husso is beside the point.

The point is that the Wings grossly overpaid for something that had zero value to the other team.

haha... ok...

There were a ton of reports that MULTIPLE teams had inquired about trading for Husso's rights, but tell yourself whatever you want to take shots at the Wings for some reason to peddle an imaginary trade, that doesn't fit for Detroit at all... and also...
Quoting: DeadWingsv2
If anything, that just further reinforces my point - we already traded for our starter (who other teams were trying to trade for as well) and aren't trading for a backup. It makes zero sense.
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12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 55
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If anything, that just further reinforces my point - we already traded for our starter (who other teams were trying to trade for as well) and aren't trading for a backup. It makes zero sense.


1. Husso is not a NHL starter.



2. You spent a 3rd on Nedeljkovic and then you spent a 3rd on Husso's UFA signing rights.

Nedeljkovic is playing elsewhere next season and Detroit will need another NHL goalie for next season.

It is what it is.
12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 56
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I think it would sting more, like this year's draft instead of 24. He's a beast d for 2 more seasons, maybe more than Chych
12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 0
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Sorry i don't consider a 3rd round pick as a gross overpay for Ville Husso, Considering that 3rd round picks have less than a 40% chance of ever making it to the NHL to begin with.


When was the last time a team spent more than a 5th round pick on a player's UFA signing rights?

Besides Husso?
12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 2
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1. Husso is not a NHL starter.



2. You spent a 3rd on Nedeljkovic and then you spent a 3rd on Husso's UFA signing rights.

Nedeljkovic is playing elsewhere next season and Detroit will need another NHL goalie for next season.

It is what it is.


What has any of this got to do with your offer of Forsberg?

Detroit currently are carrying three goalies on the roster in Husso, Nedeljkovic, and Hellberg. What in the world made you think we would trade for another one instead of just resigning one of the ones we have.
12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 6
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haha... ok...

There were a ton of reports that MULTIPLE teams had inquired about trading for Husso's rights, but tell yourself whatever you want to take shots at the Wings for some reason to peddle an imaginary trade, that doesn't fit for Detroit at all... and also...


1. When was the last time a team spent more than a 5th round pick on a player's UFA signing rights?



2. Every single trade on Capfriendly ACGM is imaginary.

I'm sorry that was never made clear to you.



3. Husso is not a NHL starter.
12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 7
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1. Husso is not a NHL starter.



2. You spent a 3rd on Nedeljkovic and then you spent a 3rd on Husso's UFA signing rights.

Nedeljkovic is playing elsewhere next season and Detroit will need another NHL goalie for next season.

It is what it is.

1. Yes he is
2. It was a great low risk-high reward gamble at the time

Detroit also has Cossa in the pipeline... your strawman arguments have no weight. Detroit isn't trading for Forsberg. Period.
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12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 13
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What has any of this got to do with your offer of Forsberg?

Detroit currently are carrying three goalies on the roster in Husso, Nedeljkovic, and Hellberg. What in the world made you think we would trade for another one instead of just resigning one of the ones we have.


1. Nothing.

I was refuting a falsehood.



2. This is for 2023-2024.

Not this season.

I'm sorry you didn't catch that.



3. Nedeljkovic and Hellberg are not going to be re-signed.
12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 19
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1. Yes he is
2. It was a great low risk-high reward gamble at the time

Detroit also has Cossa in the pipeline... your strawman arguments have no weight. Detroit isn't trading for Forsberg. Period.


1. No, he's not.
2. It was a gamble that made no sense.


It takes several years to develop an NHL goalie and Cossa can't even get by in the AHL.
That's why he's playing in the ECHL.

Your delusions have no weight.
Next time, read the description before lashing out.
Bye.
12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 21
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take out brannstrom and replace him with thomson and preds accept
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12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 23
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Isn't 4th period David Pagnotta's rag? You can take a breath lol he's as much a content aggregator as he is a journalist
12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 23
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Quoting: sensonfire
Whether Detroit would've stood a chance of signing Husso is beside the point.

The point is that the Wings grossly overpaid for something that had zero value to the other team.


But why should the Wings ”grossly overpay” to get Forsberg then🤔?

Wings have had so many picks in the last 3-5 years, but goaltending has been a big issue. Yzerman tries to fix the problem. I don’t think anybody was mad when Yzerman traded a 3rd for Ned at the time.
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12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 27
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But why should the Wings ”grossly overpay” to get Forsberg then🤔?

Wings have had so many picks in the last 3-5 years, but goaltending has been a big issue. Yzerman tries to fix the problem. I don’t think anybody was mad when Yzerman traded a 3rd for Ned at the time.


Because Forsberg is not a UFA, unlike Husso?

And Detroit will need another NHL goalie for next season because Nedljkovic/Hellberg will be playing elsewhere?

And goaltending is a big issue in Detroit, like you said?
12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 35
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1. No, he's not.
2. It was a gamble that made no sense.


It takes several years to develop an NHL goalie and Cossa can't even get by in the AHL.
That's why he's playing in the ECHL.

Your delusions have no weight.
Next time, read the description before lashing out.
Bye.

Cool story bro, good afternoon.
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12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: sensonfire
Because Forsberg is not a UFA, unlike Husso?

And Detroit will need another NHL goalie for next season because Nedljkovic/Hellberg will be playing elsewhere?

And goaltending is a big issue in Detroit, like you said?


Husso had .919 SV%. Ned had .932 SV% when the Wings traded for them. Makes sense why the Wings did those trades. Forsberg has .909 SV%. Not worth a 3rd. You are also forgetting that defense is very important. Gibson, Husso, Merzlikins, Demko, Vejmelka etc. All have bad stats because they all play behind a bad defense.
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12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: sensonfire
1. Nothing.

I was refuting a falsehood.



2. This is for 2023-2024.

Not this season.

I'm sorry you didn't catch that.



3. Nedeljkovic and Hellberg are not going to be re-signed.


FFS! Learn how to read.

Why would I mention resigning one of our goalies if I thought you were talking about this season?

Why do you think the team is jumping through hoops to avoid waiving a goalie right now if we have no intention of resigning one of them?

My dog has more reasoning skills than you are displaying here, and he's been dead for twenty years.
 
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