Ivan Provorov Next Season

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Créé par: OldNYIfan

Équipe: 2023-24 Kings de Los Angeles

Date de création initiale: 11 janv. 2023

Publié: 11 janv. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Penciling in a budget after acquiring Ivan Provorov at the trade deadline in March 2023.

I haven't re-signed any of our prospect RFAs because I don't think that they would affect the economic picture to a noticeable degree even if they make the main roster out of training camp.

The main issues are:
(1) Have I given Mikey Anderson enough, considering his discount this past season?
(2) Have I given Pheonix Copley enough?
(3) Will Jonathan Quick retire? If Quick were to retire, we could pay Copley more and simply get him a backup.

Alternative strategies:
(A) Substitute Alex Iafallo for Cal Petersen in the Provorov trade. Unappetizing.
(B) Don't give up on Petersen or Turcotte and do give up on acquiring Provorov.
(C) Find someone to fill the LhD slot at a lower cap hit than Provorov not named Jeff Chychrun. (UFA Shayne Gostisbehere? UFA Vladislav Gavrikov? Jake McCabe? K'Andre Miller?)

Bottom line: I don't think that you can shoehorn Provorov into the lineup without an unrealistic retention or another major cap move, which is just anathema to me.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Anderson, Michael	3	3 000 000 $
Vilardi, Gabriel	3	2 500 000 $
Kupari, Rasmus	2	1 250 000 $
Björnfot, Tobias	2	1 000 000 $
Anderson-Dolan, Jaret	2	900 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Copley, Pheonix		3	2 750 000 $
Quick, Jonathan		1	2 500 000 $

Transactions

LAK

Provorov, Ivan (1 125 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

The 1/6 retention factor may seem small, but note that Provorov is owed more than $17 million over the last two seasons of his contract

PHI

Petersen, Cal
Turcotte, Alex
Walker, Sean
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)

Frais de résiliation

Mike Richards: 700 000 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	81 001 667 $	0 $	3 712 500 $	2 498 333 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kempe, Adrian 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Kopitar, Anze 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Fiala, Kevin 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6
Moore, Trevor 4 200 000 $4 200 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 5	Danault, Phillip 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Arvidsson, Viktor 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Iafallo, Alex 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Byfield, Quinton 894 167 $894 167 $ (2 650 000 $$3M) AG, C RFA - 1	Vilardi, Gabriel 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, C RFA - 2
Grundström, Carl 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Lizotte, Blake 1 675 000 $1 675 000 $ C RFA - 1	Kaliyev, Arthur 894 167 $894 167 $ (212 500 $$212K) AD, AG RFA - 1
Anderson-Dolan, Jaret 900 000 $900 000 $ C, AG, AD RFA - 1	Kupari, Rasmus 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AG, AD RFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Anderson, Michael 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG UFA - 8	Doughty, Drew 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	Copley, Pheonix 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Provorov, Ivan 3 600 000 $3 600 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Roy, Matt 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Quick, Jonathan 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Björnfot, Tobias 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Durzi, Sean 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1
	Clarke, Brandt 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 3

11 janv. 2023 à 17 h 57

littlejerryseinfeld

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I can't imagine that interests philly. Turcotte looks like a major bust, Peterson cleared waivers and makes a boatload of money, walker is just a guy and now philly has added major cap AND retained on provorov for a late 1st that isn't even a 2023 and a 2nd?

If they move him they will do better I suspect

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11 janv. 2023 à 17 h 59

tkecanuck341

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Reasonable trade return. 1st + Turcotte for Provorov. 2nd + Walker to get them to take Petersen and retain salary on Provorov.

I think the Kings learned their lesson with Petersen and won't give a goaltender term based on ~60 NHL games. I suspect they'll give him a 1-year extension around $2M and potentially give him a longer term deal next summer if he can continue his quality play. The only exception is if he pulls a Binnington and wins the Kings a Cup, in which case all bets are off.

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11 janv. 2023 à 17 h 59

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Why does Turcotte look like a major bust?

11 janv. 2023 à 18 h 9

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

I have nothing nice to say about this so I will simply move on with my day.

Wow.

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11 janv. 2023 à 18 h 20

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Why does Turcotte look like a major bust?

Because as a former 6oa pick he is barely producing in the AHL in his draft plus 4 season?

11 janv. 2023 à 18 h 21

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I have nothing nice to say about this so I will simply move on with my day.

Wow.

11 janv. 2023 à 18 h 42

aadoyle

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Chycrun makes more sense to me

Cheaper cap hit and is exactly what LA needs

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11 janv. 2023 à 18 h 45

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Because as a former 6oa pick he is barely producing in the AHL in his draft plus 4 season?

He's had to deal with several severe illnesses (acute appendicitis and mono) and several injuries (ankle and two concussions). Couple that with the Kings saying they want to take their time with their prospects and the fact that he has looked really good while healthy, and I don't see what the problem is. He's waiver exempt for another season after this one, so there's no hurry.

Everyone said the same thing about Vilardi last season, and now he leads the Kings in goal scoring.

I'm not worried.

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11 janv. 2023 à 18 h 46

exo2769

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Because as a former 6oa pick he is barely producing in the AHL in his draft plus 4 season?

Not that his injuries/concussions are going to increase his trade value, but as far as the production goes...he's been hurt alot. Hard to get momentum (develop properly) if you can't stay on the ice. I'm hopeful for his sake he's past the injury bugs and can just get regular ice time. His talent is there.

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11 janv. 2023 à 18 h 50

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exo2769

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Interesting trade imo. I do think the LAK would need to send a bit more because that Cal contract is large and PHI doesn't have a ton of interets in a $5M backup. As fast as the $17M to IP, the trade could happen after he gets his bonus on July 1st since this is about next year.

11 janv. 2023 à 18 h 59

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OldNYIfan

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Quoting: exo2769

The only point to making the trade at all is to be serious contenders in 2023, not wait until next season. (See my Team Explanation.) Once you let one playoff year go by, Provorov's value to the Kings would be seriously diminished.

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11 janv. 2023 à 19 h 0

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Yup, I miss read. My bad! That's on me.

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12 janv. 2023 à 2 h 21

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Flyers will have zero interest in Turcotte after recently going through with the Nolan Patrick injury saga.

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