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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #8: Vote for Jesper Bratt

12 janv. 2023 à 17 h 37
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Honestly I hope the rumor of him doing Chicago a solid for next year

As man the way hes played and with the injuries the value is just not there rn. Its basically namesake thats keeping it stable

Now if he does come back and lights things up in 50 days then yea offers will go up. But rn its just not looking good.
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12 janv. 2023 à 17 h 57
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If im him just sign with a competitive team. Why hurt yourself before the TDL

I get doing the team a solid but imagine if he signs a 1 year deal with VGK or NYR or any other competitive team. Like sure if the Hawks get Bedard that could help him but to simplify things its seems the best move for him is just to sign with another team in 2023-2024

Now if he does that, solid move by him but its so rare I dont know if it will happen.


He would be taking a risk, but he could receive more and better offers in 2024 than 2023, as not many competitive teams will have cap space to sign a big UFA this summer.
12 janv. 2023 à 18 h 5
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Honestly I hope the rumor of him doing Chicago a solid for next year

As man the way hes played and with the injuries the value is just not there rn. Its basically namesake thats keeping it stable

Now if he does come back and lights things up in 50 days then yea offers will go up. But rn its just not looking good.






And now he could be back as soon as Saturday.
12 janv. 2023 à 18 h 6
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And now he could be back as soon as Saturday.


Even then going on IR and with the reports hes apparently playing hurt does not help his value.
12 janv. 2023 à 18 h 8
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Even then going on IR and with the reports hes apparently playing hurt does not help his value.


I still think a team will pay a premium for him. Something like a 1st and a 2nd or even two 1st.
12 janv. 2023 à 18 h 13
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If im him just sign with a competitive team.


It's a lot easier to fit his salary on a deadline deal than signing with a competitor in the off-season. He could sign a one-year big payday deal with Chicago, and still find room on a competitor at the deadline. How many competitors are going to want to tie up $8M+ in the off-season vs how many can handle the 1/3 prorated amount at the deadline with or without retention?

Just using $10M to use easy math, that's $10M cap with an off-season deal for the contending team. Or leave $3.3M accumulating open during the summer and trade for him at the 2/3 point of the season. And that's before 50% retention.
If you had $2M open cap space accumulating at the season start, you've got more than enough to bring in Patrick Kane on a $10M deal at the 2/3 point without having to move cap out if Chicago retains.

And from Kane's bank account's perspective a one-year $10M deal in Chicago and getting shipped at the deadline probably sounds better than a one-year seven million deal on a contender.
12 janv. 2023 à 18 h 51
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OEL scratch + potential Tochet as coach

Management really telling OEL to f*** off
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12 janv. 2023 à 18 h 55
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OEL scratch + potential Tochet as coach

Management really telling OEL to f*** off


Robidas island
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12 janv. 2023 à 18 h 59
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I still think a team will pay a premium for him. Something like a 1st and a 2nd or even two 1st.


mmm when injuries are attached offers often get lowered. Chicago might get a 1st but Hall like offers might be more likely
12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 4
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OEL scratch + potential Tochet as coach

Management really telling OEL to f*** off


Wayne's World Dream (Nightmare) Sequence: back to July 2021...
Arizona Coyotes < < trade > > Vancouver Canucks
OEL
Garland

for

Sweet-Loui
JayBeagleDawg
RatRoussel
9th Pick (Guenther 'the Hunter').

Tell Me: WHY TF, DID JT MILLER, get $$$$$$$ ++ Term from GM-Paddy & JR-Fossil??
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12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 6
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Wayne's World Dream (Nightmare) Sequence: back to July 2021...
Arizona Coyotes < < trade > > Vancouver Canucks
OEL
Garland

for

Sweet-Loui
JayBeagleDawg
RatRoussel
9th Pick (Guenther 'the Hunter').

Tell Me: WHY TF, DID JT MILLER, get $$$$$$$ ++ Term from GM-Paddy & JR-Fossil??


I remember when Van fans were happy about the trade

Then I explained why it was bad

Reality set in fast

Like Garland's a nice add and trading for him would have been fine. Going and getting OEL was a franchise altering mistake next to extending Miller
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12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 18
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I remember when Van fans were happy about the trade

Then I explained why it was bad

Reality set in fast

Like Garland's a nice add and trading for him would have been fine. Going and getting OEL was a franchise altering mistake next to extending Miller


JIM B cleaned some mess he made in the corner at puppy class but just added to it with old-NHL contracts IN-OUT. Dylan Guenther (age/state of Canucks will be the most valuable piece).

That's not a development stumbled on tonight. That fact was on their plate in July 2021!

Then Sept 2022, GM Paddy just pulled a JB w/ a JT!!
(kinda has a nice ring to it - if it was a sad country song)!
12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 32
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I have a feeling the Avs trade Newhook before the deadline.
12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 36
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I have a feeling the Avs trade Newhook before the deadline.


For monohan.
12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 41
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I remember when Van fans were happy about the trade

Then I explained why it was bad

Reality set in fast

Like Garland's a nice add and trading for him would have been fine. Going and getting OEL was a franchise altering mistake next to extending Miller


Canucks fans were so happy we finally got to ditch Loui Eriksson but failed to realize that OEL is so much worse
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12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 55
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For monohan.


Monahan and dach
12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 55
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Canucks fans were so happy we finally got to ditch Loui Eriksson but failed to realize that OEL is so much worse


with TERM...
12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 56
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Canucks fans were so happy we finally got to ditch Loui Eriksson but failed to realize that OEL is so much worse


OEL is one of the most mercurial players I've ever watched. His head is not in the game. He hasn't been the same since his mom died. He still shows why he could be elite occasionally, but it looked like he stopped caring while he was still in AZ. Thought maybe it was related to the coaching change and general Coyote-malaise. I thought he would bounce back post-trade. I thought he looked decent, not great, in the games I saw last year.

Honest question: I know he is definitely not worth his cap hit, but how far off the cliff has he fallen? Is he really healthy-scratch bad this year or is this a coaching head game trying to push buttons on his guys as the wheels fall off his team?
12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 59
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Monahan and dach


Maybe if they add Byram
12 janv. 2023 à 20 h 12
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Quoting: aadoyle
I remember when Van fans were happy about the trade

Then I explained why it was bad

Reality set in fast

Like Garland's a nice add and trading for him would have been fine. Going and getting OEL was a franchise altering mistake next to extending Miller


well the miller extension was not nearly as bad as the OEL trade. At least Miller gets decent points.
12 janv. 2023 à 20 h 24
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well the miller extension was not nearly as bad as the OEL trade. At least Miller gets decent points.


They should have started rebuilding when the Sedins were still in uniform post-2011.
JT Miller's points are meaningless and going forward he'll be getting them from a rocking chair with teenagers on his wing, and too an empty house...
12 janv. 2023 à 20 h 34
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Tolvanen scored again - I believe that’s 4 goals in his last 5 games. 22 teams passed on him.
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12 janv. 2023 à 20 h 40
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Tolvanen scored again - I believe that’s 4 goals in his last 5 games. 22 teams passed on him.


Hopefully the Tolvanen move finally gets Poile fired. Big mistake waiving him
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12 janv. 2023 à 20 h 42
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Tolvanen scored again - I believe that’s 4 goals in his last 5 games. 22 teams passed on him.


Kraken are going to take down #1.
The Fookin' Kraken!

Even Ron Francis could never have imagined what he assembled in the E-X-P draft would work in the NHL.

C'mon - no one on this site, McGruff included - liked what he did in 2021...
Tip of the Cap, tough SOB's to play against!

^ ^ Lesson for the Canooks Owner/Brass ^ ^
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12 janv. 2023 à 20 h 59
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Hopefully the Tolvanen move finally gets Poile fired. Big mistake waiving him


It’s a shame what he’s doing to my guy tomasino too. Great rookie season and now he’s buried in the minors
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