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Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 1 janv. 2023
Publié: 1 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Who Says No?

New York get Chychrun, Bjugstad half retained for this year and Boyd retained for this year and next.

Arizona get 2 x 1sts this year (more than likely late), 2nd next year, B+ Prospect in Kravtsov and another good young dman in Lindgren.

Thoughts?
Transactions
NYR
  1. Bjugstad, Nick (450 000 $ retained)
  2. Boyd, Travis (875 000 $ retained)
  3. Chychrun, Jakob
ARI
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Lindgren, Ryan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 36
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Rangers, the upgrade from lindgren to Chychrun is not that substantial, not worth moving all those picks
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1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 39
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I think AZ says no. They'll want a significant prospects and Kravtzov just isn't that.
1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 39
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Rangers, the upgrade from lindgren to Chychrun is not that substantial, not worth moving all those picks


Chychrun is a substantial upgrade from Lindgren.
1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 41
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Quoting: coga16
Rangers, the upgrade from lindgren to Chychrun is not that substantial, not worth moving all those picks


Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I think AZ says no. They'll want a significant prospects and Kravtzov just isn't that.


We are starting off hot :P. 1 tally for both teams declining.

I agree that Arizona would prefer a top tier prospect. This is still a very nice package though.

Lindgren is a very nice piece going back to Arizona as well. Can't discount his value here either.
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1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 41
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I think it’s good value trade for Arizonas asking price but Rangers say no. They will have a cap issue next year and already have Miller who could possibly become Chychrun if he steps up his offense without giving up the picks
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1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 42
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Chychrun is a substantial upgrade from Lindgren.


Not really. Lindgen is solid defensively and is physical. They aren’t miles apart, def not 2 1st and a 2nd worh, the bottom 6 guys attached to this deal hold no value. They wash out
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1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 43
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I think it’s good value trade for Arizonas asking price but Rangers say no. They will have a cap issue next year and already have Miller who could possibly become Chychrun if he steps up his offense without giving up the picks


Definitely. Rangers cap situation was a big part in getting Boyd half retained for this year and next year. Good bottom 6 piece for under 1m.

Having Chychrun + Miller on the left and Fox and Trouba and Schneider on the right... That would be hot!
1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 45
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Not really. Lindgen is solid defensively and is physical. They aren’t miles apart, def not 2 1st and a 2nd worh, the bottom 6 guys attached to this deal hold no value. They wash out


They are miles apart.
1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 46
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
We are starting off hot :P. 1 tally for both teams declining.

I agree that Arizona would prefer a top tier prospect. This is still a very nice package though.

Lindgren is a very nice piece going back to Arizona as well. Can't discount his value here either.


Lindgren is a nice piece, but he's not what AZ is looking for right now for Chychrun. They've been very transparent about that. Lindgren would be great if they were getting ready to be a bubble team, but they're not. They're in for a long-haul rebuild.
1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 48
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They are miles apart.


Not at all. I think you are drastically undervaluing lindgren, he’s a legit top 4 dman who compliments fox very well. 2 1sts to upgrade… you are making it sound like he’s a fringe dman if you think there is that much of a difference of 2 1st bw the 2
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1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 52
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Rangers say no. Lindgren to Chychrun isn’t worth paying that much. And Boyd is solid but no thanks if this is the deal.
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1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 53
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Rangers simply shouldn't trade Lindgren
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1 janv. 2023 à 22 h 59
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You can't convince me anymore that Jakob Chychrun will return the equivalent of four 1sts because Arizona would have found a suitor by now imo. And let's just say I'm not exactly interested in trading Ryan Lindgren for Travis Boyd and Nick Bjugstad.
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1 janv. 2023 à 23 h 1
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Rangers, the upgrade from lindgren to Chychrun is not that substantial, not worth moving all those picks


I'd say it rather is substantial, but not outrageously substantial like this trade suggests.
1 janv. 2023 à 23 h 20
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Presumably the Rangers.
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2 janv. 2023 à 13 h 36
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Chychrun is a substantial upgrade from Lindgren.

Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
They are miles apart.


We get it, you don't like his stats lol. Lil beast, cheaper, top shut down D Lindgrens yearly presence makes up for always injured Chych with slightly more points, fancier pedigree from long ago. At half Retained, then sure you'd have good point
2 janv. 2023 à 13 h 54
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Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
We get it, you don't like his stats lol. Lil beast, cheaper, top shut down D Lindgrens yearly presence makes up for always injured Chych with slightly more points, fancier pedigree from long ago. At half Retained, then sure you'd have good point


Lindgren is a good, NOT TOP, shutdown dman, so let's not make extreme statements to make points. It only makes you look foolish. Chychrun is not a shutdown dman, but he is positionally sound in his own end and generates far more offense than Lindgren.

Oh, and I love stats. Enjoy these!

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2 janv. 2023 à 14 h 36
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Lindgren is a good, NOT TOP, shutdown dman, so let's not make extreme statements to make points. It only makes you look foolish. Chychrun is not a shutdown dman, but he is positionally sound in his own end and generates far more offense than Lindgren.

Oh, and I love stats. Enjoy these


Cute chart of banged up, yet still playing Lindgren and a few games of Chych. Almost equivalent value, gms would drool over Lindgren, like Fox does
2 janv. 2023 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
Cute chart of banged up, yet still playing Lindgren and a few games of Chych. Almost equivalent value, gms would drool over Lindgren, like Fox does


I love it. SHOW ME THE STATS!... shows the stats. THOSE AREN'T REAL STATS!

Next step, you'll show me some cherry picked stats that you deem as more accurate than my stats.
2 janv. 2023 à 15 h 31
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I love it. SHOW ME THE STATS!... shows the stats. THOSE AREN'T REAL STATS!

Next step, you'll show me some cherry picked stats that you deem as more accurate than my stats.


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