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10 déc. 2022 à 12 h 46
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Nah. Dont get the engval hate tbh. Hes been fine. Need to get more offence from the B6 but his impact has been solid overall


Engvall's spot is kind of in the air rn

Holmberg has looked good, ZAR-Kampf-Malgin has had solid numbers for a 4th line, I would look to replace him with an upgrade. Like im not counting on it but who knows JP on a new team could be the next Nichuskin
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10 déc. 2022 à 12 h 53
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Im going to have to agree with leafs101 on this one (Avoid Crouse). Not only is Crouse fairly slow, but he is also a piece Arizona has identified as being a part of their team moving forward. I doubt Arizona is looking to move him at all, so a tremendous overpay would have to be in place. Personally, I'd explore acquiring Garland and replacing Engvall with him. Supposedly the return for Garland is going to be "pedestrian". Imagine a lineup of:

Garland - Matthews - Nylander
Robertson - Tavares - Marner
Bunting - Holmberg - Jarnkrok
Aston Reese - Kampf - Player X*

Rielly - Brodie
Sandin - Liljegren
Giordano - Timmins
Holl

* - Simmonds, Gaudette, Anderson, Clifford, Ellis

Granted, Garland's contract is worrysome and we should try and find a target to buy low on. I really wish the Leafs would identify more misused forward talent that could be bought low on. We did it with Murray and Timmins this year, but it really never happens with forwards. Vegas stealing Stephenson comes to mind; just imagine a trade like that for the Leafs. Curious to see what you guys have in mind, because obviously getting a great talent for very little would be beneficial for the Leafs. It would be beneficial for any team. Some guys that stick out to me are:

- Jesse Puljujarvi
- Barrett Hayton
- Morgan Geekie
- Noah Gregor
- Trent Frederic
- Eric Robinson
- Warren Foegele


It’s hard not to look at TBL with them acquiring bottom 6 guys for their runs; Goodrow, Coleman, Paul, Hagel that helped them.

To that I add:
- Motte
- Tolvanen
- Sheary
- Eller
- Hartman
- Barbashev
- Bjugstad
- Athanasiou
- Lundestrom
- Laughton
- Jenner

It be really nice if they could get someone with a bit of term so they could have them for a least two runs with them
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10 déc. 2022 à 12 h 57
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Engvall's spot is kind of in the air rn

Holmberg has looked good, ZAR-Kampf-Malgin has had solid numbers for a 4th line, I would look to replace him with an upgrade. Like im not counting on it but who knows JP on a new team could be the next Nichuskin


Dont see how necc is the guy to move though. Hes excellent in his role. JP at 3 mil is probably a bit steep for what we want (even though i agree that he could be real good if used right). Either get him cheap with retention or grab him as a UFA in the summer
10 déc. 2022 à 13 h 5
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Free Tolvanen
10 déc. 2022 à 13 h 30
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Modifié 10 déc. 2022 à 13 h 38
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It’s hard not to look at TBL with them acquiring bottom 6 guys for their runs; Goodrow, Coleman, Paul, Hagel that helped them.

To that I add:
- Motte
- Tolvanen
- Sheary
- Eller
- Hartman
- Barbashev
- Bjugstad
- Athanasiou
- Lundestrom
- Laughton
- Jenner

It be really nice if they could get someone with a bit of term so they could have them for a least two runs with them


Not a bad list but man some of these guys just be rentals or slight upgrades. Dont see CBJ trading Jenner

For me if Dubas goes and gets a true 3c to move Kampf down (nothing against but I want a 4 hit punch and 3c is where im like meh

Like rn this is what I see

Bunting-Matthews Nylander (Nice)
Jarnkrok-Tavares-Marner
Knies (once signed)-?-?
Holmberg-Kampf-ZAR

Dvorak's my target mainly due to his age, experience, and heck the history with our MVP Marner. U bring him as our 3c then find a 3rd line scoring RW for cheap and thats intriguing

If not Konecney, Crouse, Nied. Basically guys with term we can build around
10 déc. 2022 à 13 h 40
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For me if Dubas goes and gets a true 3c to move Kampf down (nothing against but I want a 4 hit punch and 3c is where im like meh

Like rn this is what I see

Bunting-Matthews Nylander (Nice)
Jarnkrok-Tavares-Marner
Knies (once signed)-?-?
Holmberg-Kampf-ZAR


Dvorak's my target mainly due to his age, experience, and heck the history with our MVP Marner. U bring him as our 3c then find a 3rd line scoring RW for cheap and thats intriguing


Of all your takes lol, probably the one I’m most in agreement with.

Bunting Matthews Nylander
Jarnkrok Tavares Marner
Knies Horvat/O'Reilly Puljujärvi/Tolvanen
ZAR Kampf Motte

Rielly Brodie
Sandin Liljegren
Giordano Holl

Malgin
Benn
Timmins

Move out Kerfoot for Hovat/O’Rielly with 1st+, try to get Puljujärvi/ Tolvanen cheap and Motte shouldn’t be too expensive.
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10 déc. 2022 à 13 h 44
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Of all your takes lol, probably the one I’m most in agreement with.

Bunting Matthews Nylander
Jarnkrok Tavares Marner
Knies Horvat/O'Reilly Puljujärvi/Tolvanen
ZAR Kampf Motte

Rielly Brodie
Sandin Liljegren
Giordano Holl

Malgin
Benn
Timmins

Move out Kerfoot for Hovat/O’Rielly with 1st+, try to get Puljujärvi/ Tolvanen cheap and Motte shouldn’t be too expensive.


Lineups good

And heck lets say Dubas goes cheaper route (Sheary and Eller could ironically also work) both are playoff vets who fill the roles well and u can do

Bunting Matthews Nylander
Sheary Tavares Marner
Knies-Eller-Jarnkrok
ZAR Kampf -Engvall/Holmberg/Malgin/idk list guy here
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10 déc. 2022 à 15 h 51
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Notice whose on the left and with rumours he may be available a reunion would be fun
10 déc. 2022 à 19 h 35
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I dont know why but the Leafs have this bad habit of backpass giveaways and its always 4 on 4 or 3 on 3 OT and 99% of the time it leads to a goal for the other team

Feel like we are giving Calgary to much space to get back into it and they played yesterday lul
10 déc. 2022 à 19 h 41
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Modifié 10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 9
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I dont know why but the Leafs have this bad habit of backpass giveaways and its always 4 on 4 or 3 on 3 OT and 99% of the time it leads to a goal for the other team

Feel like we are giving Calgary to much space to get back into it and they played yesterday lul


We are allowing Calgary to have to much space and now we pay for it. Our defense looks awful tonight

And the flames played yesterday and we look like the worse team lul
10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 9
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Despite my criticism our PP has looked nice 2/3 against Calgary

Marner also has a 22 game point streak so thats fun
10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 31
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The giveaways are killing us tonight

And it was bad enough our defense has been meh leading to 3 easy goals for Calgary on Murray's weakside

Got to give CGY less space
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 0
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Never change Matthews Nylander and Tavares Marner



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10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 20
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Just throw the tape in the dumpster

Now I will say the 4th goal by Calgary really should not have counted as the whistle was blown before it popped out and started crossing.


But man im not a fan of tonights bottom 6
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 35
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Just throw the tape in the dumpster

Now I will say the 4th goal by Calgary really should not have counted as the whistle was blown before it popped out and started crossing.


But man im not a fan of tonights bottom 6


Anderson and Simmonds need to go
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 39
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Anderson and Simmonds need to go


Anderson drew a PP so im fine. Simmonds yeah idk why hes in. If Lucic was in sure but hes not

What im trying to figure out is why was the Matthews drawn PP was not 4min as Matthews was bleeding
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 43
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Never change Matthews Nylander and Tavares Marner





Matthews-Nylander-Marner have looked good. JT seems out of it tonight. Idk hes been missing some really good opportunities or has been a tad to slow on the reflex
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 48
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10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 49
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Anderson and Simmonds need to go


Genuinely do not understand the Anderson hate. Hes been great lol. Simmer on the other hand....
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 54
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WE FINALLY WON AN OT

ITS BEEN TO LONG
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10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 56
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Genuinely do not understand the Anderson hate. Hes been great lol. Simmer on the other hand....


Ya, agreed I thought Anderson looked great. Simmonds on the other hand doesn’t ever have to be in the lineup again. Give me McMann
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 57
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Happy the boys got the win for Murray. Rough night for him
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 57
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Happy the boys got the win for Murray. Rough night for him


Take the tape dump it in the trash move on

Not pretty but hey goalies cant be perfect every night
10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 25
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Might just be the combinations tonight wasnt a huge fan of the bottom 6

When Engvall and Malgin were there at least it looked slightly better
10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 33
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I said one OT start Kampf-Marner-Sandin

And it ****ing worked yes it was the PP that did it but still I feel they should try it again whenever they have another OT
 
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