Leafs pass. If we trade for a dman it will be a right d or a guy like Chychrun.

So far this year Drouin and Dadonov have not shown anything worthy of getting any picks back. I assumed at the start of the year that they could get a 2nd or 3rd for them half retained at the deadline, but they have not done anything. I would be shocked if they get something.

Monahan on the other hand will surely fetch a 2nd + if he is half retained.

Hopefully if the Leafs are paying a 1st for a defenseman, they go with one who can actually play defense. Someone like an Orlov, Zub, Gavrikov, or any of the other half dozen guys who are likely to get 1sts above Edmundson.

I'm pretty sure Edmundson would be a higher return than this. Chiarot went for more last TDL and Edmundson is cheaper and better

What type of defenseman do you think Edmundson is?

One who tries to play defense but who's defensive impacts have never been good.

I think you have to be a good defenseman to be playing top 4 on two teams who reach the Stanley cup finale in 3 years.

I'm sure Patrick Maroon is doing something right too after having won 3 cups in a row, teams still aren't going to trade a 1st for him.

Maroon played on the 4th line on those 3 cup runs. Edmundson played on the 2nd pair. Big difference.

You remember Chiarot was traded for a 1st last year?

And look how that went for the Panthers. Why would GMs be rushing to make the same mistake?

The simple facts are that there are likely to be a lot of defensemen available, Edmundson isn't a top 4 or 5 name on that list and its highly unlikely 3 teams will trade 1sts for a defenseman not to mention 4 or 5. Last years market wasn't nearly as robust and that's why Chiarot fetched a 1st.

So Chiarot is bad because the Panthers lost in the 2nd round to Tampa Bay, 2 times Stanley cup champions? He was just signed for almost 5M a year by Yzerman.

Zub isn't getting traded, and i'd take Edmundson over the other two for a cup run. Edmundson have 2 years left, at 50% he'd be good for a team on a cup window.

I say he fetch a 1st, you say he don't. I guess we'll see.

Chiarot was awful for Florida and was one of the worst players in that series.

Gudbranson also got a big contract this summer and he’s awful.

Chiarot was good in the last 20 games of the season and the first round. Tampa is a tough team to play against, many Panthers players looked bad, they lost as a team.

They even traded Huberdeau and Weegar after that. There was even rumors about FLO players going to strip clubs late at night before a playoffs game.

Anyway, this is not even about that. My point is Edmundson will get a 1st for MTL. You think he won't?

Caps already have too many forwards, they won't trade for an overpriced one that doesn't do anything for Washington.

Correct, I don’t think Edmundson will get a 1st. Maybe some panicked GM will overpay, but a 1st is very unlikely.

Chiarot was a disaster for Florida. He obliviously didn’t single handedly lose the series for Florida, but he was bad bad. That trade looked awful at the time, looked worse in the immediate aftermath, and now somehow even worse now that Florida isn’t looking like a playoff front runner. The Panthers are a poorly run team lmao

To add on here, he was also god-awful in the Washington series. He and Weegar were probably at least half of the reason why Washington stuck around for so long and actually had a chance to win that series.

Here we go again… 🤦‍♂️

Edmunston and Chiariot brought Montreal to the final tw years ago.

exception dont make the rule. i know that is hard to comprehend for someone that thinks in a bubble

these fools dont learn. Chiarot went for a 1st plus a 4th plus a prospect but Joel whos cheaper and better than Chiarot won't get a 1st?? lmao at the absolute lunacy. Comparing Maroon to Edmundson i mean cmon. Not even the same position which is the point. Scarcity creates demand. These ppl are clueless.

What’s your point? Chiarot is not good and got a large return. That’s the exception to the rule.

You will be disappointed in the Edmundson return if you’re expecting Montreal to win as badly as they did with the Chiarot trade.



Your message here contradicts your one immediately above. I’m confused at what changed in those two minutes lol

Was talking about the Dallas trade. Same return all the Montreal fans though they were gonna get for Petry 🙄

Petry got more than most thought here. Petry (34) also had a lot of term and much older than Edmundson (29). No comparison BUT it makes me laugh how ppl can change the narrative so quick, gaslighting is an art here.

I was told Jeff was a cap dump and retained money would happen otherwise Petry wouldnt be dealt over and over. No retained money but a pick and a legit younger asset in Matheson that can be flipped. But believe whatever you want, facts wont stop you!

Edmundson is most definitely *not* cheaper than Chiarot. He has a $3.5M cap hit right now, which is the same number that Chiarot had at the time of his trade. He also has *significant* injury history - not only did he miss 2/3 of last season and the first 10 games this year, he's literally never played 70 games in a season. The only years he ever had close to perfect attendance were the two COVID-shortened years. Add in the fact that he turns 30 this year, and that his major injury last season was a back injury (a part of the body notorious for being able to re-injure), well, the red flags are really piling up.

And this ACGM has Edmundson being traded to Toronto without any retention - so not only is it unlikely that Toronto would make that trade, they wouldn't even have the cap space to fit him on their roster if they *did* want to make the deal.

Matheson or Bourque and a second…. Not exactly the same thing. Matheson was taking a bad salary back. Neither guy is a cap dump but both are making more money than they’re worth which is tricky in a flat cap world. But like you said, believe whatever you want. I also never said they wouldn’t get a good return for Edmundson. But that never stops people on this site from arguing over whatever they want to argue about. So do you

Some ppl just want to watch the world burn lol