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Créé par: swinny

Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 25 nov. 2022

Publié: 25 nov. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Henrique, Adam (2 900 000 $ retained)
Kulikov, Dmitry

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With the Ducks officially in the Bedard sweeps......

1. Henrique is simply not going to be part of the Ducks long term future. A very, very, serviceable top y forward who can play centre and plays 200 feet. I think Verbeek moves him if the Leafs offer up Robertson - who as this point for reasons unknown cannot stick in the line up.

Kulikov is going to be moved on an expiring deal..... and he is the type of D the Leafs need.

Leafs move Engvall simply because they have to (max # of contracts), and for the Ducks, is an NHL forward if they opt not to use a kid. Understood here that long term, Engvall is of no value to the Ducks short of trade fodder at the deadline for a late pick.

Since the Ducks are retaining on Henrique, and I feel that Roberston is more than enough to get him, as well as Kulikov netting a 3rd on his own, the 1st is moved to the retention.

ANA

Engvall, Pierre
Robertson, Nicholas
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	71 954 996 $	212 500 $	0 $	10 545 004 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bunting, Michael 950 000 $950 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Henrique, Adam -1 443 750 $-1 443 750 $ AG, C M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 3	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 2
Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Kämpf, David 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Aston-Reese, Zach 840 630 $840 630 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Holmberg, Pontus 827 500 $827 500 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Simmonds, Wayne 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
		Malgin, Denis 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Sandin, Rasmus 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Kulikov, Dmitry 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Källgren, Erik 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Timmins, Conor 850 000 $850 000 $ DD RFA - 1
Mete, Victor 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 2	Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 8
	Samsonov, Ilya 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 1	Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 2
	Benn, Jordie 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

25 nov. 2022 à 14 h 30

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They would probably need a bit more just because they are retaining for 2-years.

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25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 16

swinny

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Quoting: GMBL

They would probably need a bit more just because they are retaining for 2-years.

What is the definition of a bit more?

I am not a fan of moving picks (although in this case you have to) as the Leafs, well, have none lol.

25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 24

GMBL

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Quoting: swinny

What is the definition of a bit more?

I am not a fan of moving picks (although in this case you have to) as the Leafs, well, have none lol.

Idk, could be a pick or a prospect. Based of your analysis I wouldn't agree that Robertson is enough for Henrique because Anaheim is going to be greedy, especially because they are losing a retention spot next year. Yes, you did pay with the first for the retention itself but there's still some potential lost there.

I personally don't like that trade for the Leafs as is at all. If they are giving up Robertson, then they should be giving up more picks instead of the 1st.

25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 30

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I would accept that offer as the Anaheim GM if the pick were the 2023 first-rounder.

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25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 39

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I would accept that offer as the Anaheim GM if the pick were the 2023 first-rounder.

Maybe if they added a 3rd instead to the above offer it would be attractive enough.

-Robertson+ 2024 1st for Henrique (overpay imo but it is what it is)
-The "3rd" for Kulikov should be considered paid for above but not necessarily, might require a late pick.
-3rd for the retention (instead of a 4th which would be the cost for retention if he was a ufa, so a 3rd instead of two 4ths)

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25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 49

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Quoting: swinny

What is the definition of a bit more?

I am not a fan of moving picks (although in this case you have to) as the Leafs, well, have none lol.

I'd add SDA to the trade and do it.

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25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 58

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Quoting: Trickster

I'd add SDA to the trade and do it.

If that gets it done, I'm in.

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25 nov. 2022 à 16 h 34

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2023 1st and Anaheim does it no doubt

may let you throw Holl in if you want that cap space as well

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26 nov. 2022 à 4 h 29

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You're analysis is correct, Henriques time on the team was signaled to be limited with the signings of Strome and Vatrano, and Kulikov is a pending UFA. As was mentioned by my fellow Anaheim fans, we are really looking for another 1st in this year's draft.

With respect to SDA, we really do not need any more center prospects, our average center age in our top 9 is only 21 years old. SDA does have experience on NA ice which Verbeek values, but he is rather lacking in size. I think we'd rather have a 3rd round pick than SDA, as we may start using our picks to try and trade for roster players were interested in.

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26 nov. 2022 à 6 h 22

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I would accept that offer as the Anaheim GM if the pick were the 2023 first-rounder.

Then I'd accept immediately tbh. Add a 3rd to the original deal and I'd accept too.

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26 nov. 2022 à 8 h 30

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

Given the lack of Leaf picks, I am not a fan of moving a 3rd here, unless it includes a Kulikov extension.

Reluctant to move a 2023 1st here too. Deep draft, which is why the Ducks would value it. Get that. Why I opted to move Robertson...... simply a winger with the offensive upside that could be dynamic with Zegras. Even with limited time in Toronto, he looks to pace for a 40 point season which equals what Henrique would do. The hit here for the Ducks is defensive capabilities.

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