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Tales from the foxhole - Leafs edition

Créé par: jonh514
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 31 oct. 2022
Publié: 31 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Disclaimer: Habs fan here, but I'd like to see the Leafs bring a cup back to Canada

Habs have been through this before and can offer some perspective. General managers who are too close to their coaches tend to have a hard time letting them go. Bergevin held onto Michel Therrien way too long and alienated a whole bunch of Habs players and he did it for 75% of our season.

Your problem is not your players, it's your coach. Keefe has been an offense-first coach for as long as he's been with the Leafs and now he's trying to get the team to play a defensive-stlye. The players are not buying in.

They DO need to play better defensively to win in the playoffs, but the players all know the GM/Coach are fired if this year goes badly and some of them are thinking about their next contracts.

I do think one of Marner or Nylander needs to get traded for a power forward. You will lose in skill, but you will get back a player who can score and push the other team around. Plus you can move some of that money onto defense or onto your other lines.
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31 oct. 2022 à 5 h 39
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For Josh Anderson, the request would be a first-round pick + a good prospect in attack
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31 oct. 2022 à 5 h 42
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For Josh Anderson, the request would be a first-round pick + a good prospect in attack


I think the Habs would take Nylander back and maybe add to get the deal done. Marner is the better player, but his salary is way off our salary range.
31 oct. 2022 à 5 h 47
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I think the Habs would take Nylander back and maybe add to get the deal done. Marner is the better player, but his salary is way off our salary range.


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Josh Anderson
Cayden Primeau
Mathias Norlinder

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William Nylander
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31 oct. 2022 à 5 h 54
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Like this?

Josh Anderson
Cayden Primeau
Mathias Norlinder

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William Nylander
1st Round Pick (Late)


Nylander is a PPG player it would be more like Florida 1st and Anderson for Nylander
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31 oct. 2022 à 6 h 12
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Marner rocks
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I'd rather try to get Jeannot from Nashville. Say Robertson 2023 first and 2 3rd rounders. Jeannot -Matthews-Marner. Then move Kerfoot and 2024 first for Scott Laughton. Just a thought. 3rd line Laughton-Kampf-Jarnkrok. Knies-Tavares- Nylander when Knies is done with NCAA season. 4th line ?
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I'd rather try to get Jeannot from Nashville. Say Robertson 2023 first and 2 3rd rounders. Jeannot -Matthews-Marner. Then move Kerfoot and 2024 first for Scott Laughton. Just a thought. 3rd line Laughton-Kampf-Jarnkrok. Knies-Tavares- Nylander when Knies is done with NCAA season. 4th line ?


He's a fine player, but:

-Nashville play in a weak division and they want to win now
-208 pounds vs 235 pounds, I think you need a 6' 4" powerhouse

Just my opinion but Jeannot is not gonna work out.
31 oct. 2022 à 6 h 45
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Marner rocks
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He's a fine player, but:

-Nashville play in a weak division and they want to win now
-208 pounds vs 235 pounds, I think you need a 6' 4" powerhouse

Just my opinion but Jeannot is not gonna work out.


I don't think Anderson is worth 7m a season and he is injury prone. imo
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I don't think Anderson is worth 7m a season and he is injury prone. imo


Anderson makes 5.5...
31 oct. 2022 à 6 h 50
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Anderson makes 5.5...


Yahoo has him making 7 million. you are correct at 5.5
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Yahoo has him making 7 million. you are correct at 5.5


Also he isn’t good
31 oct. 2022 à 8 h 59
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I would go with Kerfoot (3.5M) and Holl (2.0M), and then build the trade on what we get in return for Anderson.

Leafs should also consider adding Pezzetta to this trade.
31 oct. 2022 à 9 h 3
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slow, over paid is not where the leafs should go.
31 oct. 2022 à 9 h 12
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Not sure why the Leafs would trade for either Jeannot or Anderson, when Knies will be part of the team soon enough.

Makes no sense to downgrade Nylander to Anderson, and trading Robertson or anyone for Jeannot who will need a bigger contract will lead to other complications.

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Yahoo has him making 7 million. you are correct at 5.5


7m was probably his salary from last year or this year.
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31 oct. 2022 à 9 h 24
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slow, over paid is not where the leafs should go.


Slow? He's probably among the fastest skaters in the league.
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31 oct. 2022 à 9 h 53
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No Habs fan should want the 'Leaves' to bring a cup to Canada, if anything it should be Edmonton to do it if not the Habs themselves!
31 oct. 2022 à 10 h 14
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Not sure why the Leafs would trade for either Jeannot or Anderson, when Knies will be part of the team soon enough.

Makes no sense to downgrade Nylander to Anderson, and trading Robertson or anyone for Jeannot who will need a bigger contract will lead to other complications.



7m was probably his salary from last year or this year.


He's never made 7M...
31 oct. 2022 à 11 h 7
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He's never made 7M...


His salary this year is 7m, I just checked it now, so he will be making 7m. Wiki displays the players salaries usually and not cap hit.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/josh-anderson
31 oct. 2022 à 11 h 9
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His salary this year is 7m, I just checked it now, so he will be making 7m. Wiki displays the players salaries usually and not cap hit.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/josh-anderson


Oh... Like actual salary, not cap-hit? Who cares about that other than the owners and agents?
31 oct. 2022 à 11 h 14
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Oh... Like actual salary, not cap-hit? Who cares about that other than the owners and agents?


Not hockey fans but Wikipedia does since I guess that's in-line with putting peoples' estimated net worth. I feel like they could just put the guys entire contract details instead.
 
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