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Under cap when Liljegren returns

Créé par: SevenLeg
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 12 oct. 2022
Publié: 12 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
TOR
  1. Leskinen, Otto
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Solid AHL defenseman who can probably be a serviceable #6 or #7 defenseman in the NHL, waivers exempt (what TOR is looking for), and RFA at the end of the season.
MTL
  1. Holl, Justin
Détails additionnels:
Habs are going to need some experience on the back end (Jordan Harris is the 3rd most experienced defenseman on their opening night roster with 10 GP). M-NTC could be a problem, though.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $81 821 246 $212 500 $0 $678 754 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
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UFA - 2
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
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UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
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UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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840 630 $840 630 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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UFA - 2

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12 oct. 2022 à 13 h 0
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Don't know much about Leskinen, but the Leafs are going to need to hang onto Holl IMO. Muzzin is no stranger to LTIR, Gio is no spring chicken, moving Kerfoot frees up the necessary cap space and IMO the Leafs have the internal depth to replace him. They don't have any 20min RD top 4 PK ability in the system to cover moving Holl out.
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12 oct. 2022 à 13 h 2
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Don't know much about Leskinen, but the Leafs are going to need to hang onto Holl IMO. Muzzin is no stranger to LTIR, Gio is no spring chicken, moving Kerfoot frees up the necessary cap space and IMO the Leafs have the internal depth to replace him. They don't have any 20min RD top 4 PK ability in the system to cover moving Holl out.


I thought Kerfoot was more needed to the roster than Holl.
12 oct. 2022 à 13 h 8
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I thought Kerfoot was more needed to the roster than Holl.


Moving Engvall out is the answer. Kerf and Holl stay.
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12 oct. 2022 à 13 h 9
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I thought Kerfoot was more needed to the roster than Holl.


With Jarnkrok, Engvall, ZAR, NAK, Kampf, and now you add in Robertson, Holmberg, Steeves, McMann keeping Kerfoot IMO seems rather redundant. They have the players to replace what he brings to the team. They literally have no one on the Marlies at RD even close to pushing for a roster spot. Niemelä is the closest prospect and he is at least 2 years away.


I have no idea HOW they will get under the cap but only moving one of Engvall or Holl doesn't really help. IMO Kerfoot gives them the most flexibility and hopefully a D can come back in return.
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12 oct. 2022 à 13 h 10
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Don't know much about Leskinen, but the Leafs are going to need to hang onto Holl IMO. Muzzin is no stranger to LTIR, Gio is no spring chicken, moving Kerfoot frees up the necessary cap space and IMO the Leafs have the internal depth to replace him. They don't have any 20min RD top 4 PK ability in the system to cover moving Holl out.

Leskinen, although a very interesting players, is certainly not a top 4 PK guy in the making. Likely a serviceable bottom pairing guy that is reliable, think a poor man's Brett Kulak when he started.
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12 oct. 2022 à 13 h 10
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
With Jarnkrok, Engvall, ZAR, NAK, Kampf, and now you add in Robertson, Holmberg, Steeves, McMann keeping Kerfoot IMO seems rather redundant. They have the players to replace what he brings to the team. They literally have no one on the Marlies at RD even close to pushing for a roster spot. Niemelä is the closest prospect and he is at least 2 years away.


I have no idea HOW they will get under the cap but only moving one of Engvall or Holl doesn't really help. IMO Kerfoot gives them the most flexibility and hopefully a D can come back in return.


Meh, Muzzin will probably get hurt eventually and we can claim Mike Reilly.
12 oct. 2022 à 13 h 25
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Meh, Muzzin will probably get hurt eventually and we can claim Mike Reilly.


Reilly is already through waivers, the claim period is over for him.
12 oct. 2022 à 14 h 2
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Habs aren't interested in trading future assets even if it's only a 7th
12 oct. 2022 à 15 h 21
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Done

Like unless there is an LTIR injury to Muzzin Holl is the only guy I see moving

That is unless Dubas pulls the trigger on a certain 3-way trade for someone before Christmas
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13 oct. 2022 à 7 h 1
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Don't know much about Leskinen, but the Leafs are going to need to hang onto Holl IMO. Muzzin is no stranger to LTIR, Gio is no spring chicken, moving Kerfoot frees up the necessary cap space and IMO the Leafs have the internal depth to replace him. They don't have any 20min RD top 4 PK ability in the system to cover moving Holl out.


Exactly, this idea of just having 18 skaters throughout season (with no waiver exempt players) is ridiculous.

Liljegren and sandin are not PK guys and neither has ever played top 4 minutes or 70+ games, having Holl or Giordano as 7th makes too much sense. Which means moving a contract of more than 2mil.

And the idea of many Leaf fans hoping your best option at 2LD (with 2 yrs left on contract) goes on LTIR is equally dumb. Muzzin and Giordano are not good bets to stay healthy game in-game out, playing 20plus minutes a night, which means keeping Holl (especially since the 8th-10th guys are benn, mete, dahlstom are very poor at best) important.
 
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