I would take Kaut over Gauthier any day personally

dont see the benefit from the avs, Kaut is having a heck of a pre-season, and if he cant make the Avs, Gauthier for sure wouldnt

Plus when you consider Gauthier is 2 years older than Kaut. This doesnt do anything for the Avs now or a chance at long term

So you think Kaut will make the team?

considering they have a roster spot open due to some guys being injured to start the year, he at the very least is one of the 13 fwds, Hes not hitting the waiver wire

Gauthier is very skilled and speedy. He can wow you.

Avs say no. Kaut is having a very solid preseason, including 1 goal + 1 assist against Minnesota two nights ago, so he likely makes the roster. Galchenyuk also got injured and released from his PTO which helps his cause.

Aside from that, even if the Avs wanted to move on from Kaut they'd probably be aiming higher than Gauthier.

That all said, I've proposed Kaut to NYR trades in the past and think he'd be a good stylistic fit there. They play heavy forwards in their bottom 6 and Kaut's style would mesh well with that.

As in “wow, how were you drafted so high?” Lol the problem with him is he doesn’t wow you in any way

I'm not familiar enough with the Avs situation w/ Kaut to comment realistically on what he could be moved for...but unless he's about to hit the waiver wire (don't think so), I doubt they'd move him for Gaut- a guy who might just be waived.

FWIW, if (when) Gaut gets waived by NYR, whoever picks him up will be taking a flier on a low risk/high reward situation. Can't put a finger on what's wrong with Gaut- hockey IQ?? The guy just doesn't finish. He has size...insane speed... he hits...he back checks....he draws penalties. But for whatever reason he can't stay in the lineup...yet Ryan Reaves can?? As far as the Avs, I'm not sure who they would sit to insert Gaut in the lineup, but one thing he would do is put McK, Makar, and Company on the PP- this alone would be worth the Avs taking a stab at Gaut...just not with Kaut going east.

If hockey IQ is an issue, then he wouldnt last under Bednar and the Avs.

Gauthier is clearing waivers on Monday.

FWIW, there were many rumors that Kaut would be a roster crunch causality since he is no longer waive-exempt, but it appears due to an injury a roster spot has opened up for him. Camp isn't over and a similar circumstance could happen for Gauthier as well. They also are similar in that both had AHL success but have yet to break out in the NHL even though both are super-talented. Kaut is two years younger, so more hope surrounds him. When I look at both players, they seem to be more locked into their style, so would benefit greatly from playing on a team that has their style of play. The NYR suit Kaut, and the AVS suit Gauthier. It would have been a waiver-wire causality for a waiver-wire causality deal.

these statements confuse me, kaut suits NYRs stayle and somehow Gauthier suits the Avs? What is Kauts "style" how does he fit on the Rangers and not the avs. This just feels like throwing something on the wall and hope it sticks.

Kaut fits the avs identity, its not just skating, so I am curious to hear why he doesnt fit the Avs but the Rangers in your own words

Avs are more of a speed game
NYR is more about possession

Gauthier has great skating and fits well in exploiting mistakes, needs players going with him to help with space to finish
Kaut skating isn't inclined to Avs speed so he has to compensate, but he excels at passing and control.

That is just incorrect my man.
And to say the Rangers game is more about possessions....I would take a look at their shot share metrics from last season. You are in for a big surprise

Avs are not just speed, like I said. This is just blanket statements throwing stuff on the wall.

My impression on generally how each team wants to operate. You know the Avs way better than me, so I will take it for what it is worth.

They use their speed. But forecheck relentlessly, the play quick transition hockey and that’s not bc of speed, it’s high hockey IQ. Quick sticks. Quick passes.

If a player is just fast yet can’t process the game at the same speed. They won’t work. Example is yakupov, that was his issue, he could not think the game fast enough

Gaut won’t last in an avs system if he can’t process what the avs do At a high level. Avs have players who aren’t burners than fit into the identity bc they think the game fast.

It has hard to figure out what Gaut's issue is. He seems to have it all, except it doesn't work out. I wouldn't necessarily attribute it to HIQ, he is not a clueless player and has great stick skills. It's more like he sees the game should be played a certain way and has issues getting out of it. He creates a lot of breakaways/openings and they look very impressive but he doesn't convert. There were stats floating around last year of a very high rate of pressures. He attracts a lot of attention but doesn't seem to be able to finish with a player hanging on his back. Maybe a quick transition team would solve his riddle.

Why would the avs want to take on that chance , he’s 25 and still trying to figure it out. He can’t play bottom 6 isn’t good to produce in the top 6. 2 teams couldn’t figure it out

You might have to just accept he’s a sunken asset at the nhl level.

It was just a thought, you are probably right. The Rangers may give him another shot, he was signed for this year.

For Kaut (assuming Avs still high on him) I can see Avs passing...but for a distant pick? or a waiver p/u (should he make it that far before another team grabbing him)? Why not? As mentioned above, Gaut really is a riddle...you really can't say he hasn't figured it out- because he does seem to get chances, he does create space for others, he does hustle back to break up plays going the other way, and he does use his size/speed to draw penalties....for the life of him, he just doesn't put it in the net! Yet scoring touch hasn't been an issue until now! Maybe you're right- maybe he is a sunken asset at this highest level...but if given a better opportunity than the Rangers have given him- drawing in the lineup more consistently, and with better minutes when in the lineup- maybe the riddle can be solved. And if this happens, who knows if the floodgates open.