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Dellandrea or Mysak

Créé par: Finski
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 19 sept. 2022
Publié: 19 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Lundkvist, Nils
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  1. Lundkvist, Nils
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19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 24
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I think Montreal would take this.

Mysak is a decent prospect, but the RD depth is depleted.
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19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 28
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I think Montreal would take this.

Mysak is a decent prospect, but the RD depth is depleted.


You would be surprised some people want NYR to add a pick... To me this is more lopsided towards MTL (I used to add conditions on the pick to make it a 3rd if Lundkvist played over 50-60 NHL games this season), but I don't want to be spammed by 100 comments of drop the conditions.
19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 28
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montreal will do this without including any draft picks
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19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 29
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
montreal will do this without including any draft picks


But would NY? I don't think so Mysak has had 1 great tournament... Nils has had several plus a Salming award...
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19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 30
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But would NY? I don't think so Mysak has had 1 great tournament... Nils has had several plus a Salming award...


That's fair and fine, move him for Dellandrea in that case. Montreal can wait for Mailloux and Barron
19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
That's fair and fine, move him for Dellandrea in that case. Montreal can wait for Mailloux and Barron


Mailloux shouldn’t play an NHL game imo
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
That's fair and fine, move him for Dellandrea in that case. Montreal can wait for Mailloux and Barron


I think I might prefer Dellandrea since he is NHL ready. That is why a 1-1 trade is realistic and, in the Mysak case, is not. Mailloux is a wasted pick. I doubt he will see a day of NHL action in his life and if he touches the ice he will have a target the size of Quebec on his back. Barron is a good prospect but Lundkvist is ready for top 4 action and is an incredible defenseman so your loss I guess.
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Mailloux shouldn’t play an NHL game imo


I agree! What he did has no justification or the "he was young and made a dumb mistake" excuse is BS, there are some mistakes you just cannot do and this is one of them.
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19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 35
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Mailloux shouldn’t play an NHL game imo


He shouldn't, sure, but he will. It's the NHL, all talk and no action.
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19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 35
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But would NY? I don't think so Mysak has had 1 great tournament... Nils has had several plus a Salming award...


You don't know who Mysak is do you?! you keep saying he had one great tournament but he has been at almost a ppg in every league he has ever played in, even when he was playing above his age groups and is a PPG player in each of his first two years in the OHL.
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I agree! What he did has no justification or the "he was young and made a dumb mistake" excuse is BS, there are some mistakes you just cannot do and this is one of them.


I mean, I agree completely, but if you start launching investigations I imagine this has happened in every NHL locker room since social media came to be. It isn't a rarity, just rare for someone to get caught. Not defending the player at all, but this I imagine is unfortunately more common than we realize.
19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 37
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I think I might prefer Dellandrea since he is NHL ready. That is why a 1-1 trade is realistic and, in the Mysak case, is not. Mailloux is a wasted pick. I doubt he will see a day of NHL action in his life and if he touches the ice he will have a target the size of Quebec on his back. Barron is a good prospect but Lundkvist is ready for top 4 action and is an incredible defenseman so your loss I guess.


Lundqvist couldn't keep a roster spot in NY so he is most certainly not a four 4 defenceman. Mailloux will play, no doubt.
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You don't know who Mysak is do you?! you keep saying he had one great tournament but he has been at almost a ppg in every league he has ever played in, even when he was playing above his age groups and is a PPG player in each of his first two years in the OHL.


2020-21 season:
22 Games with Laval he had 2 points (2G)
HC Litinov in 2019-20 he had 26 Games with 9 points (5G 4A)
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He has been a PPG in the OHL and only the OHL which is great, but many players have achieved that (Brett Howden achieved better numbers then that in junior and is a career 4th liner)
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19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 41
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
I mean, I agree completely, but if you start launching investigations I imagine this has happened in every NHL locker room since social media came to be. It isn't a rarity, just rare for someone to get caught. Not defending the player at all, but this I imagine is unfortunately more common than we realize.


But he was the one that got caught... You get caught basically the opposite of "No face no case" you suffer the consequences. He cannot play a day in the NHL and if he does I hope someone like Wilson runs him to kingdom come
19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 42
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
Lundqvist couldn't keep a roster spot in NY so he is most certainly not a four 4 defenceman. Mailloux will play, no doubt.


I mean Patrick Kane still plays and so do the unnamed 8 players on the 2018 team Canada roster. The only difference between them and Mailloux is the fact that Mailloux is not a superstar like Kane and his name was released to the press unlike the team Canada players. Mailloux likely will play, just as others before him have made their way onto other NHL rosters.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
Lundqvist couldn't keep a roster spot in NY so he is most certainly not a four 4 defenceman. Mailloux will play, no doubt.


Lundkvist was playing bottom pair mins with Nemeth... He was the QB of the 2PP and performed extremely well his "demotion" was less to do with him and more to do with Schneider showing he is the "real deal"... Lundkvist is ready for top 4 mins, and you know it you are just trying to deflate his stock so that MTL can get a steal and get some kind of payback for the McDonagh steal...
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But he was the one that got caught... You get caught basically the opposite of "No face no case" you suffer the consequences. He cannot play a day in the NHL and if he does I hope someone like Wilson runs him to kingdom come


Do you really think Tom Wilson has the moral compass to stand up for equality and good behavior during a hockey game? He almost murdered your best player last year.
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19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 45
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Lundkvist was playing bottom pair mins with Nemeth... He was the QB of the 2PP and performed extremely well his "demotion" was less to do with him and more to do with Schneider showing he is the "real deal"... Lundkvist is ready for top 4 mins, and you know it you are just trying to deflate his stock so that MTL can get a steal and get some kind of payback for the McDonagh steal...


No, I couldn't care less. But he lost his number 6 d-man roster spot to a 20 year old in NY so I don't believe he is a top four defenceman.
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I mean Patrick Kane still plays and so do the unnamed 8 players on the 2018 team Canada roster. The only difference between them and Mailloux is the fact that Mailloux is not a superstar like Kane and his name was released to the press unlike the team Canada players. Mailloux likely will play, just as others before him have made their way onto other NHL rosters.


Kane was found innocent... the second the players of team Canada are known, then each team must reconsider if they play and the role they played (if they were the perpetrators they must be expelled from the league)
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Do you really think Tom Wilson has the moral compass to stand up for equality and good behavior during a hockey game? He almost murdered your best player last year.


Yes. He is a lose cannon and I hate what he did to Panarin, but it does not need to be Wilson someone like Reaves can do it
19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 50
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Kane was found innocent... the second the players of team Canada are known, then each team must reconsider if they play and the role they played (if they were the perpetrators they must be expelled from the league)


He mugged and assaulted a cab driver too, do you not remember that?
19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 51
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2020-21 season:
22 Games with Laval he had 2 points (2G)
HC Litinov in 2019-20 he had 26 Games with 9 points (5G 4A)
etc.

He has been a PPG in the OHL and only the OHL which is great, but many players have achieved that (Brett Howden achieved better numbers then that in junior and is a career 4th liner)


LMAO, Laval he was a 18 year old and obviously not ready to make the jump to pro after 22 games on North American ice and missing an entire season due to injury and covid shutdown but OK. HC Litvinov is a Czech pro league and you expected a 17 year old to be a ppg player against men?! LMAO, you literally just took the 2 pro leagues and disregarded the circumstances surrounding his inclusion. did you even bother to look at the fact that that same year as a 17 year old he put up 21 points in 9 games in the Czechia u19 league? No you didn't you just looked to see what years he was not a ppg player and posted that! That right there proves you do not know the player just looked at his stat lines.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
He mugged and assaulted a cab driver too, do you not remember that?


But a general assault and a sexual crime are 2 different beasts... Assault sucks and must be punished but a sexual crime is so bad that there is no excuse that can be done to defend that and a monster like that cannot be allowed to play in front of the world. It is almost like saying "it is okay"...
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LMAO, Laval he was a 18 year old and obviously not ready to make the jump to pro after 22 games on North American ice and missing an entire season due to injury and covid shutdown but OK. HC Litvinov is a Czech pro league and you expected a 17 year old to be a ppg player against men?! LMAO, you literally just took the 2 pro leagues and disregarded the circumstances surrounding his inclusion. did you even bother to look at the fact that that same year as a 17 year old he put up 21 points in 9 games in the Czechia u19 league? No you didn't you just looked to see what years he was not a ppg player and posted that! That right there proves you do not know the player just looked at his stat lines.


Nils played against men as an underager and performed great... So your "he was 17 argument" is just an excuse...
19 sept. 2022 à 12 h 4
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
Reaves can hardly stand on the ice, he'd have to catch Mailloux first. Also Reaves is ancient so he'll likely be out of the league by the time Mailloux plays. He's 19, you're a grown man openly hoping to see a kid get hurt, how does this make you any better than Mailloux in the first place?


I am a fully grown man? Right... I am in my early 20s so I would hardly call myself "fully grown man"... Also I have never done a crime in my life and much less an action as disgusting as the one done by Mailloux.
 
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