I disagree. I would say it's poor asset management to keep something you have an excess of when you have other issues that need addressing, such as offensive depth when we are in a win-now mode. Girard, while he is a great player, isn't necessary, we won the cup without him for most of the run. Letting him go for someone who makes us much better now is what we should be trying to do if we're trying to win now.

Miller gives us two things: 1) A 1st line forward who will be playing 2nd line, and he could take minutes away from the lower lines and allow them more rest for things like penalty killing, plus he has great offensive upside. 2) Cap space after next season, it'll give us more flexibility to re-sign Newhook and Byram (accounting for EJ's contract satisfying Nate's extension).

Now, I get that Girard is a signed for a long time, but we need to give space and roster spots for players like Byram, and in the future, prospects coming up (Behrens, for instance). Girard is creating an unnecessary surplus that could be easily solved by simply trading him!

And even though Miller is a rental, by the time we trade for him and after this next post-season, I believe that Newhook will have shown he can be a 2C behind Nate. So I think we can fill the rest of the holes through free agency and further trading (we still do have a decent prospect pool).

Also I really don't think we should be paying a 3rd pairing defenseman $5 million after EJ's deal is up, cause that's the role he will have unless we move him (same thing if we move him to RD and send Manson down to the bottom pairing).

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Why do you always chery pick in order to make your failed point? I said he is going to be overpayed, is a 2c on the Avs and is a rental. Guys aging out of their prime is also one of the things the Avs have been vocal about avoiding. I think Miller is still in his prime. However, giving 7 year deals at north of 7m to 30 year olds is bad business outside a special few.

Only way it works for Boston is if 1st/Zacha or 1st/Debrusk are the primary pieces. If that’s of no interest then cross us off the list. But there is the X factor. Don S is in charge. And he does dumb 💩. Although to be fair he generally does ok on trades. It’s free agency he hasn’t quite figured out yet. Give him a couple more years, he’s getting there. 🙄

I agree with most points but Miller is not an ideal PK guy

Sounds horrible. Maybe hire Jim Benning? Reform the D with OEL?

Hypocritical. The Last year, Landeskog was signed to a 7 million dollar contract for 8 years. He was 28 at the beginning of last season. Miller is 29 right now. Landeskog is being payed 7 mil until he is 36. Must be a bad contract then

Whoops. My bad. Tried to slip one in there.

No no I meant he provides rest FOR the PK guys by spending more time on the ice with top 6 (most pk guys are on our bottom lines)

I don’t think Boston does this, it would have to be something other than Lysell and McLaughlin, and any of our top 6, top 3 D-man, or any of our goalies. That’s your choice but that how Boston accepts I would say.

I think the question is will Miller extend for $7 mil though?

If Vancouver doesn't need RW then why ask for Lysell whose a RW?

Well yall dont really have much else. Carlo would be my first ask

That's why Boston and Vancouver don't match up well for a trade. Miller isn't a need this season and Boston can't be trading away their good prospects since we have so few

He’s a prospect more then anything. They don’t need a RW that needs NHL time right now

lol, Landy signed at 28 and Miller will be 30 when this next deal starts. The team who signs Miller is getting 2 less years of "prime". Follow it up with will Miller sign for 7m?
When he gets to 36, Landy might be on a bad deal. It isn't lost on Avs fans. Currently he's underpaid so w.e.

I won't be shocked if Lysell see NHL action this year. He likely starts the year in the AHL, but I could see him getting some games later in the season or of injuries happen.

Yeah, but it’s not like he needs top 6 minutes

The team who trades for him is getting him at the age of 29. Is that math so hard to get?

2+2 is 4 -1 that's 3, quick maths. One JT Miller was born Mar 14th 1993. He will be 30 years of age when the 2022-23 nhl season starts.I said the team that SIGNS him.
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I would make all of these trades if I were Vancouver, with the exception being the WASH trade.

The 1st is going to be late, Iorio is probably a B prospect no guarantee he ever plays an NHL game, Eller's will be 34 by the end of the year and would essentially be a throw in. I bet if WASH tried to move Eller's right now it would cost them to do so.

I think either the prospect or NHL player needs to be upgraded, even if they remove the other piece.

Ok but how is that relevant to the trade? Cant you just stay on topic for ONCE

Might get a first. Won’t get Lysell.

I think you are underrating Iorio quite a bit, especially with how he improved this year and that he's only one year off being drafted. He's a strong RD that should get full minutes in Hershey as a 19/20 year old and improved in zone exits, had career highs in points, goals, and assists, has a rocket shot, and his PNHLe has gone up steadily in the last couple years. If Vancouver wants a young RD, which it seems they do, Iorio perfectly fits the bill.

I don't think Washington would go for him since I can't see Miller being anything more than a rental this year, he's coming off a career season that I don't think he can replicate, and Washington is quite high on Iorio (and they refuse to move Eller, even if it would give McMichael more playing time). Washington already brought in Strome for this year so I don't see them going for another center, and with big free agents coming up for Washington, like Orlov, Jensen, Fehervary, Brown, Strome, and Hathaway, as well has having 2 great center prospects in Lapierre and McMichael in the pipeline and Kuznetsov under contract already.

I can't see the Caps re-upping Miller over any of the previous FAs and with Washington getting burned in the past on rentals like Shattenkirk, who also came off a career season, I can't see the Caps dealing for what Vancouver demands when they know they can't bring him back.

Don’t get me wrong it’s not that I don’t’t think he could a part of a package for Miller or that his style of play couldn’t be a fit in Vancouver. I’m pretty sure I made the first AGM targeting him as a piece in a Miller trade all the way back in late January/early February, with that said he’s a B prospect and so if the 1st is going to be late then the returning player needs to be upgraded. I can’t find a single NHL affiliated prospect ranking that has Iorio in the top 100 rankings, so he by no means a guaranteed NHL player.
I dont think you trade the 12th highest scorer over the last 3 years on a cheap contract (relatively speaking) for a late 1st, a B prospect and a 33 year old player that currently likely has negative value. Most of the Canuck Miller trades on here are overvaluing Miller worth, but I definitely think there will be better overall packages for Miller.