I know it’s a big ask, but I would highly doubt that the Canes consider moving Pesce unless someone like Draisaitl is coming back. There just simply isn’t much of anything else that would be of interest to the Canes that they would move Pesce for. Hyman would be of interest, but not if the Canes are moving Pesce.

“ Would the Devils take a 2nd rnd pick for him at deadline??”
Lol no.
If the Devils are sellers at TDL multiple teams would offer their 2023 1st and more for Severson. The Chiarot and Savard returns are the benchmark for a futures deal.

If the Devils are competitive and willing to move Severson, there’s a great hockey trade to be made with the Oilers consisting of a Puljujärvi - Severson one for one swap.
But in such a scenario where the Devils are firmly in the playoff races, the Devils would be more likely to just keep Severson as a self rental and retain one of the leagues strongest RHD setups.

Y'all consider Bouchard a top 4 dman and y'all keep trading Barrie but saying he is a top 4 RHD who can puts a lot of points ... then keep him you got 3 RHD

No they would not move Pesce as he is their 2nd best D man by far and they are trying to win a cup. Burns is 37 and Skjei isn’t the same player without Pesce

I'd wait until next summer to address this, it's not a pressing issue IMO. Barrie has been quite good under Manson, I don't think there's any reason to move him.

If they decide to - next summer - I'd be looking at Mayfield and Gudas as 3rd pairing options. I don't think the Oilers will need another top-4, but if they did Weegar, Sanheim and Severson would top my list.

Girard is a weaker, more expensive Tyson Barrie, I don't see any sense in trading assets for Pionk or Pesce (who probably isn't available anyhow) and Dumba hasn't been overly impressive for about 5 years now.

He also has Draisaitl at 2C. Do y'all think he's a 2nd line center?

Severely undervaluing Severson here. And comparing him to Barrie is just not close. Barrie is extremely 1 dimensional, Severson is a TWD and he is going to be a hot commodity at the TDL. He will fetch way more than a low 2nd

Canes would have to get a mindblowing offer to even consider giving up Pesce. RD's like that with those contracts dont come around often. Just doesn't seem like a deal the canes would make considering they're a cup contender.

I mostly agree... but I am not entirely convinced that Ceci will maintain top 4 play... Obviously i hope he does, but if not i think a top 4 RHD that is both capable offensively & defensively(Pionk, Weegar, Pesce would be top of my wishlist) would be well worth giving up some assets for. But otherwise yes, bottom pairing guys like Gudas or Mayfield would be ideal signings next summer.

Why would CAR move Pesce? They’re trying to win a cup, not rebuild. He’s a major piece and our best RD. Just bc we have RD depth doesn’t mean we’d trade our best one. Shoot for Bear or Chatfield if you want but if the ask is Pesce than the price is Drai which you’d be stupid to do. There’s no framework for a Pesce deal

Yes, thats why i said he would be expensive... He also only has 2 seasons left on his deal & will likely get a costly raise.... Hence why I also mentioned that Carolina has alot of younger/Cheaper but capable RHD in their system. So maybe Carolina moves him next summer when he only has 1 yr left on his deal for a big return.

Yes, i mentioned he would be expensive, but Drai as a return.... absolutely not worth that. Canes would never move Pesce this season obviously... this was more meant to hypothetically be next summer when he only had one season left on his deal. Canes could move him for a huge asking price, especially if they have trust in their younger/cheaper RHD already in their system and think they could still remain contenders.

It wouldn't be "some" assets though, the asset cost would be substantial.

Agreed... but I'd still consider it. At some point they have to go all in, and their defence is pretty much their last remaining weak spot.

Pesce isn’t the type of guy they move tho. Sure there are cheaper guys we have in the system but none of which we’d trust playing big minutes in big games this year or next when we already have Pesce on a great contract. It’s not like we’re in a cap crunch anyways so I’m not sure why saving 2M would be worth it to force Bear into a top 4 role? It just really makes no sense since we’re in win now mode and we’d be abandoning one of our team strengths when we wouldn’t get anything in the immediate future that helps us. McD and Drai are obviously off the table so what are you going to give us which helps right now?

That is quite literally the reason the Oil would potentially look to move Barrie. Bouchard and Barrie are the same type of player so obviously the team with cap problems would look to keep the younger, cheaper option and trade the more expensive option. Ideally to bring in a cheaper, no offense all defense type to provide a mix on the right side.

Bear not Pesce and you have a deal (and you didn’t even offer anything)

COL isn’t trading Girard this season unless it’s a massive overpay particularly to a conference rival.

Since the Canes are in win now mode, it makes no sense for them to move Pesce. It would already require an overpayment to acquire Pesce, but Edmonton doesn’t have anything outside of the big 2 that would interest the Canes enough to move Pesce. Canes don’t have to move him, and they don’t want to move him either. If Edmonton wants him, they will pay the price, or they won’t get Pesce.

I don't disagree with your overall premise, but Barrie and Bouchard are far from "the same type of player".

They both provide offense at a high rate and are known to struggle defensively. Neither are shutdown defenders. Neither are physical defenders. I would say they are far more alike than they are opposites

You didnt understand my point but I am not surprized coming from you



You understand my point and I understand yours, there's just no contender in need of an offensive RHD making 4.5M with terms who can't play defense... Rebuilding team would take Barrie to help the tank, sure, but they would want assets for him for taking that 4.5M

Girard is a significant improvement over Barrie. Trust any Avs fan with even two brain cells to rub together to tell you that much.

^ This, plus the Oilers don't have the parts that would interest the Avs.

Yeah, I know how much homerism affects Avs fan, so trusting their opinion just is not happening.

Girard is a small, weak on the boards and non-physical left-shot offensive defenseman who puts up poor on-ice Rels while costing more than Barrie. The chances that Edmonton would give up assets for this guy are less than zero.