Bad trades for both sides in all the trades. The Carolina and Vancouver trades are exceptionally bad for the Jets.

I don't think the Carolina one is awful, but what on earth is going on with that Canucks trade?

PLD says no
And I feel like the canes do too
Islanders say no. Maybe Bellows for Stanley or Vesalainen
Do not know much about the wilds cap situation to give you an honest opinion

Canes wouldn’t offer it in the first place so guess both teams decline. Not interested in PLD.

Canes tell you to pound sand. That's awful for 2 years of PLD. I'd rather have the futures

Demko>>>>Hellebuyck so Vancouver declines easily.

The Carolina trade is bad because it targets wingers and replacement level defensemen which the Jets don't need if trading a top 6 center.

I agree, I have no idea what the end game is in the Vancouver trade.

1.Schmidt is worth more than a 3rd. Best I can see is a 2nd rounder. Plus Chicago doesn’t want D. They want picks. The tarde is bad for both teams.
2. Dumba is waaaaaaaay better than DeMelo. I guess Wheeler is better than Greenway but Wheeler is 35 and has been on the decline while Greenway is only 25.
3. Why would Winnipeg trade to solid prospects for some old players that are either injured or AHL players.
4. Hurricanes decline easily.
5. Dillion is not a very good D-Man. Sanheim is a solid d-man he’s worth more than a second and Dillon.
6. Winnipeg first off all is not taking on those contracts. Demko is one of the best goalies in the league. Hellebuyck is good but Demko in my opinion is better.

Schmidt is not worth more then a third

Canucks aren’t trading Demko for Hellybuck

Jets have Samberg and Heinola ready and waiting for NHL minutes and you want to waste assets to block them with Sanheim…hell no. Last thing WPG needs is LHD.
The rest… I’m ok with the Schmidt trade… that’s about all that’s worth while

-Chicago has made some weird moves this summer, but all of them have been about amassing future assets for their rebuild. I can't see them moving out a 3rd for a guy like Nate Schmidt who doesn't fit their rebuild timeline at all.

-Minnesota just extended Greenway so I can't seem them moving him out. The other issue for this trade is that their cap crunch somehow gets -worse- next year and swapping out Matt Dumba's expiring $6M for Blake Wheeler's guaranteed $6M takes away a lot of their flexibility. I just don't see it making a ton of sense for the Wild.

-Why are the Isles throwing in a 2nd rounder here? Matt Martin isn't any sort of offensive dynamo, but he's at least physical and sticks up for his teammates. I'll take that and his 7 points in 71 GP over Vesalainen's 3 in 53 GP and complete lack of effort (not to mention he's already signed in the SHL for next year). Stanley isn't a desirable piece now that Romanov & Salo are signed for LD2/3 - if they're adding any depth there I assume they lean more towards a veteran than a 23 year old with 95 NHL GP. And Panik's cap hit is $250K when he's buried in the AHL so it's not like he's an anchor that needs to be moved.

-This feels like too much for PLD - I don't think the upgrade from Necas to Dubois is worth Bear, Gunler, and a 1st and 2nd rounder. I think you're looking more at getting futures for him if you move him, as opposed to roster players.

-Bad deal for Philly. Sanheim is younger and more productive than Dillon; I don't know why they're trading down from the 2nd to 3rd and giving up arguably the better player here.

-I can't see Vancouver moving 4x$5M of Demko for 2x$6.166 of Hellebuyck, unless you give them a massive overpay. This isn't that.

Pfftt... That Carolina trade is great for the Jets, they'll be lucky to get a return half as good as that for Dubois.

Demko>>>>Hellebuyck

worse for canes than it is for Winnipeg.

Agreed Re: Dubois.

Unless Dubois tells his agent that he would sign elsewhere other than MTL behind the scenes, the value WPG will get will be much less than he's actually worth. Make no mistake about it, he's really shooting WPG in the foot here with making it public that MTL is his preferred destination in 2 years time. It won't be a garbage return but won't be the return he SHOULD get had he not said anything. That's for sure.

Honestly I hope the Habs just get him in free agency and don't trade for him early.

No, it's pretty crappy for the Jets. I don't think replacement level defenseman and disappointing bottom 6 wingers are as valuable as you do I guess.

I understand Helleybuyck is another Jet player you have an irrational dislike of, but Helly is undoubtedly the better goalie.

I don't see it. The only pieces with any real value Carolina is giving up are the picks.

Necas can be a 60-70 point player in a couple years. Not worth it for CAR at all. unfortunately PLD is very overrated now

Nah man, thats a solid package from the Canes and Necas is a center.

If Helle was as good as so many think he was he would've been able to win one game on his own last season yet he didn't, Demko on the other hand stands on his head and steals games for Vancouve, Demko is a top 3 goalie in the league with Shesterkin and Vasilevskiy.

If all goes right for Necas maybe it's a very sight possibility. Necas is incredibly overrated for what he has actual done, which isn't much. But he's still only a winger, while Dubois is a 60 point center now and only a year older.

Minnesota quickly declined. MIN isn't trading dumba and or greenway to take on wheeler. We don't want him on our locker room, nor his cap. We have no need for Dylan D

These are all over the shop, from wlid overpays to brazen fleeces to some kinda reasonable stuff.

Necas is not a center. Every time Carolina has tried him there it has been a disaster. He's a winger, that will likely never be a center in the NHL.

I'll chalk your Demko schpeel up to "the grass is always greener." For me one season of Demko playing over his head , doesn't mean a lot. Claiming that Helly hasn't won games for the Jets is very disingenuous, and points to that general dislike I mentioned.

wouldn't say he's overrated, cheap contract for the next 2 years, and had a decent year in 20-21 (.75ppg). Dubois hasn't proved much more, and is overvalued by people on this site, those are basically 2 first picks (assuming philly is still bad in 2024). Also seems like he has no loyalty to any team, still don't see why CAR would do this, Necas still has potential.

It sounds like you're a little biased. Necas is absolutely overrated. Necas is a 48 point winger while Dubois is a 54 point center. Wingers are never worth as much as a center, barring very exceptional players.

So Necas still has potential, but Dubois, only a year older, doesn't? Is that what you're saying?