PRICE TO RETIRE AT END OF SEASON TRADE FOR DUBOIS PLUS HOFFMAN TO ANAHEIM

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Créé par: nilees24

Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 30 juill. 2022

Publié: 31 juill. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

** Tank for Connor Bedard
*** Keep Slafkovsky in Laval until after the Trade Deadline
****Price a candidate to start season but likely LTIR and retirement at end of 2022/23 season.

Trade candidates (2022/23 Trade Deadline):
Jonathan Drouin (1 yr left in contract)
Evgeny Dadonov (1 yr left in contract)
Paul Byron (1 yr left in contract)
Jake Allen (1 yr left in contract)

Team Roster (End of 2022/23 season):
Slafkovsky - Suzuki 'A' - Caufield
Ylönen - Dubois - Anderson
Armia - Dach - Gallagher 'A'
Pitlick - Evans - Pezzetta
(Harvey-Pinard) (Groulx)

Guhle - Matheson
Edmundson 'C' - Barron
Harris - Savard
(Wideman)

Montembeault - Primeau
*Price retires*

Trade candidates (2023/24 Off-Season):
Joel Armia (2 yrs remaining)
Carey Price's contract (3 yrs remaining)

Likely additions in 2023/24 free agency:
Jonathan Huberdeau (7 yr - 9.5/mil yr)
Alex Nedeljkovic (2 yr - 3.5/mill yr)

Team Roster (Start of 2023/24 season):
Slafkovsky - Suzuki 'A' - Caufield
Huberdeau - Dubois - Anderson
Ylönen - Dach - Gallagher 'A'
Pitlick - Evans - Pezzetta
(Harvey-Pinard) (Mesar)

Guhle - Matheson
Edmundson 'C' - Barron
Harris - Savard
(Wideman)

Nedeljkovic - Montembeault
(Primeau)

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Mailloux, Logan		3	880 833 $
Stapley, Brett		1	825 000 $

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Dach, Kirby		1	3 000 000 $
Primeau, Cayden		1	850 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc

WPG

Dvorak, Christian
Farrell, Sean [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	76 970 832 $	1 132 500 $	1 990 000 $	5 529 168 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Drouin, Jonathan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 8	Caufield, Cole 880 833 $880 833 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD UFA - 1
Dadonov, Evgeni 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Dubois, Pierre-Luc 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Pitlick, Rem 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Dach, Kirby 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C, AD RFA - 4	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 3	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Pezzetta, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1		Ylönen, Jesse 880 833 $880 833 $ AD, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 3	Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) DD RFA - 2	Allen, Jake 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $ G UFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Harris, Jordan 842 500 $842 500 $ (507 500 $$508K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 2

31 juill. 2022 à 12 h 40

Not_Isles5513

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Anaheim and Winnipeg decline. Hoffman is a cap dump and Dubois is worth more. It’s also worth mentioning he downplayed his agents comments about Montreal.

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31 juill. 2022 à 12 h 42

Windjammer

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The Jets have absolutely no reason to give Dubois away for such a poor return. You'd need to add an unprotected 1st to Hoffman to return that much.

31 juill. 2022 à 12 h 54

Salzy

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Add in an unprotected 1st in 2023 or leave us alone

31 juill. 2022 à 12 h 55

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Both trades are so blatantly biased towards MTL.

31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 15

Nake_qc

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Quoting: Windjammer

The Jets have absolutely no reason to give Dubois away for such a poor return. You'd need to add an unprotected 1st to Hoffman to return that much.

What do you think PLD will fetch?

31 juill. 2022 à 13 h 59

Lancebmx

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Quoting: Nake_qc

What do you think PLD will fetch?

If he does get traded it will likely be a first, good - top prospect and a decent roster player. I don't think Farrell is that prospect they want. Might need a bit more, not totally sure.

31 juill. 2022 à 14 h 3

evelutions2

Lets Get Kraken

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Might want to stop playing NHL 22 for a while. Most of the NHL GM’s aren’t as stupid as the AI in NHL 22.

31 juill. 2022 à 14 h 9

Windjammer

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Quoting: Nake_qc

What do you think PLD will fetch?

At the TDL in 2 years he would get a 1st and good prospect, so for the extra two years or would be mire than that.

The problem with this offer is Farrell as a LW prospect, holds little to no value to Winnipeg.

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31 juill. 2022 à 14 h 42

Fox_Czar_Cup

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31 juill. 2022 à 15 h 17

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Nake_qc

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Quoting: Windjammer

So this deal is at least getting the gm's talking.

31 juill. 2022 à 15 h 41

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ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Quoting: Windjammer

What people don't realize, is that Dvorak could end up being as good or better than Dubois.
Dubois only has 50 more points while playing 3 more games than Dvorak in his career. That's negligible considering the difference in deployment.
They are very comparable players in terms of impact while playing different roles. Any additional pieces in a trade are simply to bridge any gap in perceived value.

If you don't want Dvorak and would prefer a more pick/prospect heavy package, that's fine, but if Dvorak is included, a 1st and middling prospect is at least sufficient to cover a difference which may not even exist. Dvorak could have easily put up 60 points in Dubois' role this season while winning more faceoffs and taking less penalties. The difference between them isn't a top prospect and an unprotected 1st.

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31 juill. 2022 à 15 h 54

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Windjammer

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Quoting: ricochetii

Yeah, zero chance Dvorak ends up being as good or better than Dubois. At 26, Dvorak is what he is. A marginal 3C that misses a lot of time and doesn't put up much in points. There is a massive chasm between 3 years of Dvorak and 2 years of Dubois.

2 years of Dubois>>>>> 3 years of Dvorak.

31 juill. 2022 à 15 h 57

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Windjammer

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Quoting: Nake_qc

So this deal is at least getting the gm's talking.

I don't think so. 2 years of Dubois is worth way more than 3 of Dvorak. I think the Jets would leanto a first and better prospect package over this type of deal.

31 juill. 2022 à 16 h 50

#14

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Quoting: Windjammer

Again, he's only 50 points behind Dubois in the same number of games, in a less offensive role.
Dubois has more room for development, thus the difference in value.
I'm not saying a 1-for-1 swap makes sense, only that the difference isn't two highest end pieces.

31 juill. 2022 à 19 h 24

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thewookie1

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Quoting: ricochetii

50 pts isn’t exactly a small number. I’d be more willing to agree if it were 20 pts but 50 is completely in a different realm.

Price isn’t retiring; he might LTIRetire but he isn’t walking away from 30+ million to do the Habs a favor

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31 juill. 2022 à 21 h 29

#16

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Quoting: thewookie1

Not when you consider a 20% swing in offensive zone starts.
Agree on Price. Best chance for him to get a cup is to agree to termination and lose all that money. Not likely.

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