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Which team needs to contribute more to this trade

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 31 juill. 2022
Publié: 31 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
53 400 000 $
1787 500 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. Dobson, Noah [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/will-noah-dobson-domino-finally-fall-on-nhl-summer-trade-front
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $81 227 463 $245 796 $1 287 500 $1 272 537 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
750 000 $750 000 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
787 500 $787 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 20
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There is simply no situation where NYI will trade Dobson. He outproduced Werenski at the same age and is trending towards a legitimate #1
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31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 21
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Dobson is not being moved, is already signed and will be announced Sept. 1st.
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31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 21
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There’s no path to trading for Dobson using JT Miller. VAN could add a 1st + prospect and the isles wouldn’t do it, doesn’t fill their needs.
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31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 24
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I wish there was a deal here, but unless Lou has entered some sort of senility, NYI don’t consider trading Dobson for Miller as the central piece coming back.
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31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 31
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The Province doesn’t seem like a credible source for trade rumors. The article was literally just poorly written and inaccurate speculation.

If the islanders were going to move Dobson you need to get a guy of similar age and talent back. The Canucks aren’t trading Pettersson for him so there isn’t a deal here.
31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 31
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Vancouver would a lot, to the point where they would be too uncomfortable to make the deal. Dobson isn't available
31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 33
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Vancouver would a lot, to the point where they would be too uncomfortable to make the deal. Dobson isn't available


Yeah but Miller couldn’t be the center piece either.
31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 42
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Vancouver would a lot, to the point where they would be too uncomfortable to make the deal. Dobson isn't available


I was really hoping these proposals would go away. They are kind of ridiculous at this point.
31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 44
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A good rule of thumb is that if the Canucks wouldn’t trade Hughes for this package then the Islanders wouldn’t trade Dobson
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31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 48
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I can’t believe this is a question
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31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 50
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Quoting: C_leon35
A good rule of thumb is that if the Canucks wouldn’t trade Hughes for this package then the Islanders wouldn’t trade Dobson


Don’t try comparing Barzal or Dobson to Pettersson or Hughes. Barzal and Dobson aren’t as good as Pettersson or Hughes because they don’t play for Vancouver!!!
😂😂😂
31 juill. 2022 à 10 h 51
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I can’t believe this is a question


Teacher: There are no dumb questions:

Student: Is JT Miller for Noah Dobson fair or do the isles need to add to the deal?

Teacher: That’s a ****ing stupid question.
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31 juill. 2022 à 11 h 45
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Quoting: Isles5513
Don’t try comparing Barzal or Dobson to Pettersson or Hughes. Barzal and Dobson aren’t as good as Pettersson or Hughes because they don’t play for Vancouver!!!
😂😂😂


Except for the fact that Hughes and Pettersson are absolutely better players than Dobson and Barzal? I agree that the isles aren’t trading Dobson but I see you on every forum acting like he’s Cale makar.
31 juill. 2022 à 11 h 49
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Quoting: adamsandler
Except for the fact that Hughes and Pettersson are absolutely better players than Dobson and Barzal? I agree that the isles aren’t trading Dobson but I see you on every forum acting like he’s Cale makar.


Lmao that’s not what it is. I just wouldn’t trade him for a 29 year old center on an expiring deal.
31 juill. 2022 à 11 h 50
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Except for the fact that Hughes and Pettersson are absolutely better players than Dobson and Barzal? I agree that the isles aren’t trading Dobson but I see you on every forum acting like he’s Cale makar.


Pettersson isn’t better but that’s just my opinion. I tend to value guys who can create at a high level in transition which is something Barzal excels at. But Barzal is legit passing to trash.
31 juill. 2022 à 11 h 57
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Except for the fact that Hughes and Pettersson are absolutely better players than Dobson and Barzal? I agree that the isles aren’t trading Dobson but I see you on every forum acting like he’s Cale makar.


It’s entirely about the size of Dobson and the fact it’s harder to find righties.

With Barzal V Pettersson I just prefer Barzal style wise. I love Pettersson’s game and I’d be happy with either guy. But you can’t teach Barzal’s skating ability and he has a righty shot. Both of those things come into play here for me. Imo Barzal is way more talented than his production indicates. Whether he will ever reach his full potential with this roster is an entirely different question.
 
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