But was that the offer?

Offer wasn’t revealed. Just report buffalo made an offer Steve Y rejected. This trade would be bare minimum I’d accept to fall back from 8th to 9th. Essentially getting a B+ prospect and another 2nd in the deeper 2023 draft.

Buffalo probable only offered a second. Peterka is not available for Kasper.

I doubt the sabres wanted him that bad...

To move back one spot you probably get a late first or an early 2nd.

They probably only did offer a 2nd. Or the 28th overall. Hence why they don’t have Marco Kasper. Peterka is on the table or the 8th isn’t. Buffalo walks and Detroit selects the guy they want.

Nope. Peterka for 8 maybe ... Not Peterka +. Kids a first liner.

They probably would have taken Kasper if Murray didn’t decline the trade. Peterka is a better prospect than Kasper.

I doubt it as well since they don’t have him lol. I’m just saying this is my request if I’m Detroit. What Buffalo wants is irrelevant to me lol.

I would not trade Peterka for Kasper one for one. Much better than a B+ prospect.

Kasper > Peterka. Here’s why.
Peterka draft year 7G 4A 11pts in DEL
Kasper draft year 7G 4A 11pts in SHL

Comparing SHL to DEL is like comparing NHL to SHL. Kasper put up the same stats in a much tougher league at the same age. When Kasper is Peterkas age he’ll be much more valuable than he is right now. Hence why Kasper was taken 8th and Peterka was taken 34th...saying Peterka is a better prospect than Kasper just reveals how uneducated you are.

JJ is a B+ prospect? Okay🤣

No chance we trade Peterka for Kasper. Adams may have wanted him but too smart to give that up for him. Prob was move up and you got another pick in the draft

Lmao, you never would have gotten close to this offer for a 1 spot move. It was probably a third. And JJP just had the highest ppg in a U20 season in the AHL of the past 30 years and you’re calling him a B+ prospect? Tell me you don’t know the Sabres without telling me you don’t know the Sabres.

One thing you haven’t calculated in here is growth. Sure Kasper was better in his draft year (obvious based on draft position) but JJP has only improved his value since being drafted. In his first season on NA ice, he was a ppg in the AHL, increasing his production against tougher competition. If there was a redraft right now, JJP would easily go top 15. Will Kasper improve his value and make teams wish they took him top 5? Maybe. Will he lose value and make the red wings regret taking him at 8? Also maybe. With prospects it’s not an exact science, that’s why Kucherov and Aho were 2nd rounders instead of top 10 picks.

In all honesty though, (I haven’t seen the actual rumor so this is just speculation) I’d guess the Sabres were offering 16+ for the trade up, not 9. This is based off them trying to trade 16 for Matt Murray+ 7OA. I think they wanted both Kasper and Savoie, and it would make more sense for Detroit to have refused a trade going down 8 spots instead of 1.

Peterka a B+ prospect. LOL. Wouldn't trade Peterka 1 for 1 for the 8th OA pick. No way Adam's offered that. It was probably like 9th OA and a 2nd in 2023 or 16th OA and a real B prospect

This is just silly. Time didn't end when Peterka was drafted. He has elite potential and a game style that will fit the nhl. Can't remember exactly but I believe it was 7g and 5a in 10 playoff games with the Americans. That is beyond impressive for a kid that just turned 20 in season.

@GenXHockey
Peterka is much further down the development path than Kasper.
While John finished 9th in AHL scoring last year, he was only 19 yo until mid January and EVERYONE who ranked higher than he, was at least 24 yo and not considered an NHL prospect.
As mentioned above in the playoffs he also had 12 pts and 7 goals in 10 playoff games.
So when the chips were down he upped the ante!
There would be absolutely no way Karmanos would even consider Peterka for a pure prospect.
Crowe would choke Jason if he did that.

EDIT historically to move from 9th to 8th would have cost only the Sabres 3rd round pick.
BTW, I think the Sabres should have taken Kemell over Ostlund with the 16th OA pick.
I will trust that Crowe knows more about the prospects than I.

Peterka is a B+ prospect. If he were an ‘A’ prospect he’d have been in the NHL last year. ‘A’ prospects are in the NHL max 1 year after their draft. Facts. Deal with it.

I am considering growth. And based on where Kasper was at the same time Peterka was, I’m betting that Kasper will be the superior player at 20 compared to where Peterka is right now. That’s where I’m putting my calculated growth if Buffalo called me wanting 8OA. If they don’t like my request they can gladly keep peterka and I’d gladly keep 8OA and draft Kasper.

You're wrong again. You can keep trying tho!

Not here to really argue who’s better between JJP and Kasper. I will say, however that Savoie+Peterka has a significant amount of more value than Kasper. Even without the second this would be a overpay by far.

That’s fine to feel that way. I’m speaking from a Detroit perspective. I’m interested in drafting Kasper and not interested in dropping back. Therefore if my division rival calls me up and says hey I want to get the #8 pick and draft Kasper, my response is #9, JJP and a 2023 2nd. You will pay me what I want if you want Kasper. Simple as that. I’m not interested in offering fair value to help out Buffalo and have to spend the next decade playing against the guy I wanted to draft for myself. This probably has a lot to do why this trade never taking place.

If this was the case Steve Y would just say he wasn’t interested instead of making KA delete his contact information.