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Habs trade

Créé par: Cardiac
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 28 juill. 2022
Publié: 28 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
MTL
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Lafrenière, Alexis
Détails additionnels:
Laf=2020 1st OA - slaf=2022 1st OA
Kakko=2019 2nd OA - Caufield=2019 15th OA

Laf is more developed than slaf while caufield is more developed than kakko so it’s even.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $79 609 802 $0 $5 200 000 $2 890 198 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
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UFA - 8
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
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UFA - 5
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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875 000 $875 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
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UFA - 5
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG
RFA - 1
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance50 000 $$50K)
G
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UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 525 000 $1 525 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 20
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Rangers win this trade
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 21
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You cannot call that even. Caufield>Laf, Slaf>Kakko.

Laff is 1st OA in 2020, yes but he is worth the pick of what he would be in a 2020 redraft, which is probably 3th-6th. So he would potentially be worth one of Cooley, Wright, Guatheir, Jirieck
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 21
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Habs might do it if you throw in Schneider.
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 24
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Quoting: raph222b
You cannot call that even. Caufield>Laf, Slaf>Kakko


No it is even. Slaf doesn’t have as high of a ceiling that Laf does. You aren’t even comparing the two who are drafted in the same draft. It’s literally best assets and worst asset for 2nd and 3rd asset.
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 28
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No it is even. Slaf doesn’t have as high of a ceiling that Laf does. You aren’t even comparing the two who are drafted in the same draft. It’s literally best assets and worst asset for 2nd and 3rd asset.


Slaf has an 85 pt ceiling and Laff 90, but laff has 2 bad years in the bag. His value isn't as high. If you want to put it in other terms Laff=Slaf, Caufield>>>>>>Kakko. Habs decline
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 28
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Quoting: Cardiac
No it is even. Slaf doesn’t have as high of a ceiling that Laf does. You aren’t even comparing the two who are drafted in the same draft. It’s literally best assets and worst asset for 2nd and 3rd asset.


you are comparing to a player who has yet to play a single nhl game. you cant assess developpment like that.
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 30
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Quoting: raph222b
Slaf has an 85 pt ceiling and Laff 90, but laff has 2 bad years in the bag. His value isn't as high. If you want to put it in other terms Laff=Slaf, Caufield>>>>>>Kakko. Habs decline


Slaf has 70 point ceiling. Kakko has 80 point ceiling. Laf has 90 point ceiling. Caufield has 90 point ceiling. If you really want to talk Laf=caufield and kakko>>>>> slaf
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 32
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Quoting: Cardiac
Slaf has 70 point ceiling. Kakko has 80 point ceiling. Laf has 90 point ceiling. Caufield has 90 point ceiling. If you really want to talk Laf=caufield and kakko>>>>> slaf


Slaf has a high ceiling af. Before the draft, slaf was seen as the player with the highest potential, but a lower chance to get there than wright. He was seen as more of a risk but still the BPA
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 36
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Montreal definitely doesn't do this.

Quoting: Cardiac
No it is even. Slaf doesn’t have as high of a ceiling that Laf does. You aren’t even comparing the two who are drafted in the same draft. It’s literally best assets and worst asset for 2nd and 3rd asset.


We have no idea who has the actual higher ceiling now. Laf had the higher ceiling when he was drafted, but he also hasn't developed the way most expected.
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 43
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Under MSL Caufield went 22 goals 35 points in 37 games Including his frist career hat trick to end the season
We just drafted someone Lecavlier says plays the same style he did and is looking forward to mentoring him when he can.
We got out MSL and Vinny in Slavkovsky and Caufield who couldnt have better mentors
Why do we give that up for the Great French Hype?


I mean a deal for Kakko is intreaguing as a deal for Puljujarvi is
We're looking to move Anderson by the begining of the season
We'll need someone like this we can get at a decent price as he flounders

I like Kakko of Puljujarvi who Hughes is looking at i guess.
But as for Laf we're good honestly and he's finally starting to almost produce like Caufield did in less then half a season hahahaha
So maybe he'll actually be worth spending your 1st OA on one day
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: raph222b
Slaf has a high ceiling af. Before the draft, slaf was seen as the player with the highest potential, but a lower chance to get there than wright. He was seen as more of a risk but still the BPA


What you just said was complete bull. Everybody knows slaf has the lowest ceiling out of the top 4. Cooley has the highest ceiling in the draft, followed by wright, followed by jiricek, followed by nemec, and then slaf. Slaf was viewed by scouts as the safest pick at 1 and there was heavy debate because weight has the higher ceiling. Honestly if you are picking based on potential slaf should have been 5th OA. You are simply giving him value based on his draft location. I would bet good money that Seattle and arizona would reject a trade for slaf for their picks straight up. Slaf is safer because of his play against men in international tournaments. If he played liiga primarily he would have fallen. His play against men in the liiga was lack luster. For comparison Jesperi kotkaniemi played better in the mens league than slaf. KK put up 29 in 57 while slaf put up 10 in 31. He’s a safe pick at the end of the day but expect him to polarize. He is safe based on size and things he can develop but I expect him to be good but not good enough to warrant being the first pick in this draft. End of the day both kakko and Laf have higher ceilings.
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 47
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Slaf has an 85 pt ceiling and Laff 90, but laff has 2 bad years in the bag. His value isn't as high. If you want to put it in other terms Laff=Slaf, Caufield>>>>>>Kakko. Habs decline


To be fair Laf's wasnt a 90
Its like Dobber they had Caufield at 8.0/10
Today he's a 10/10

They update their info as time goes by
Most top 5 players start at atleast 7.5-8.5 in the Dobber world
Even Crosby only had a 9.5/10 when he was drafted
No one gets a 10/10 at their draft anyways is my point

I'm not sure what site you use but i suspect its the same
Issue is they dont leave a public log of their updates like i dunno Google maps does for example
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 49
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Quoting: Cardiac
What you just said was complete bull. Everybody knows slaf has the lowest ceiling out of the top 4. Cooley has the highest ceiling in the draft, followed by wright, followed by jiricek, followed by nemec, and then slaf. Slaf was viewed by scouts as the safest pick at 1 and there was heavy debate because weight has the higher ceiling. Honestly if you are picking based on potential slaf should have been 5th OA. You are simply giving him value based on his draft location. I would bet good money that Seattle and arizona would reject a trade for slaf for their picks straight up. Slaf is safer because of his play against men in international tournaments. If he played liiga primarily he would have fallen. His play against men in the liiga was lack luster. For comparison Jesperi kotkaniemi played better in the mens league than slaf. KK put up 29 in 57 while slaf put up 10 in 31. He’s a safe pick at the end of the day but expect him to polarize. He is safe based on size and things he can develop but I expect him to be good but not good enough to warrant being the first pick in this draft. End of the day both kakko and Laf have higher ceilings.


No everyone doesnt
I'll take quotes of where these Everyone's are though

Your point aside Caufield did more in 37 games in a bad season then LAF in his career best with double the games
Justify that one
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 56
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Quoting: Burnout
Montreal definitely doesn't do this.



We have no idea who has the actual higher ceiling now. Laf had the higher ceiling when he was drafted, but he also hasn't developed the way most expected.


Objectively as a fan of neither team who has been following the NHL religiously since 2012, Laf has a much higher ceiling than slaf. Based on lafs recent production over the past 4 years, he hasn’t been so bad that it warrants him being worse than slaf. Imo slaf is the worst 1st OA pick since 2012. Yakupovs draft year was the only one worse than slaf since the 2010s. He is a decent prospect but the only player I see playing worse in their draft year was yakupov. Mack, ekblad, mcdavid, matthews, hischier, dahlin, hughes, laf, and power were all better prospects than slaf was this past year. Honestly wright I would say is a better prospect than hischier and ekblad but still a very weak top of the class. Don’t be surprised if he heavily and I mean heavily disappoints. I give him 70 point upside which is still a good NHLer but he is the worst prospect imo since yakupov.
28 juill. 2022 à 17 h 59
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Objectively as a fan of neither team who has been following the NHL religiously since 2012, Laf has a much higher ceiling than slaf. Based on lafs recent production over the past 4 years, he hasn’t been so bad that it warrants him being worse than slaf. Imo slaf is the worst 1st OA pick since 2012. Yakupovs draft year was the only one worse than slaf since the 2010s. He is a decent prospect but the only player I see playing worse in their draft year was yakupov. Mack, ekblad, mcdavid, matthews, hischier, dahlin, hughes, laf, and power were all better prospects than slaf was this past year. Honestly wright I would say is a better prospect than hischier and ekblad but still a very weak top of the class. Don’t be surprised if he heavily and I mean heavily disappoints. I give him 70 point upside which is still a good NHLer but he is the worst prospect imo since yakupov.


Laf's first two seasons track BEHIND Yakupov. If you're following the NHL religiously, you'd know that. I don't have high hopes for Slaf or Laf.
28 juill. 2022 à 18 h 16
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Quoting: Burnout
Laf's first two seasons track BEHIND Yakupov. If you're following the NHL religiously, you'd know that. I don't have high hopes for Slaf or Laf.


I still have high hopes for Laf based on his ceiling. He is a good player still and should easily be able to live up to the potential. Now if you also look at the numbers you would know yakupovs best year was his rookie year and then displayed constant regression. Laf has been showing progression which is what you want to see in your players. His CHL stats were also drastically better than yakupovs. I think he is having trouble adjusting but once he fully adjusts to the NHL, he will be that star.
28 juill. 2022 à 18 h 39
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Lafrenniere and kakko had 49 points combined last year. Caufield alone had 43. Habs arent interested in your busting players
28 juill. 2022 à 19 h 4
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Quoting: Black61
Lafrenniere and kakko had 49 points combined last year. Caufield alone had 43. Habs arent interested in your busting players


No they are. They want both of them and if anybody rejects it’s the rangers.
28 juill. 2022 à 19 h 57
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