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Créé par: Iggy11
Équipe: 2022-23 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 18 juill. 2022
Publié: 18 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Fun blow-up hypothetical, think WPG has been stuck in the mud for too long here, gotta try gain some traction towards real progress.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Guhle, Kaiden
Détails additionnels:
Tough to deal an RFA like this, but grabbing a vet like Byron helps locker room and Dvorak is a solid middle 6 center. Guhle has a chance to be a top pairing guy, so I can understand hesitancy from MTL, but you've gotta give a little to get a little.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
He may not deserve it, but doing right by PLD doesn't hurt, let MTL expedite their window. There'd have to be an extension in place before the trade is complete.
2.
WPG
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
Détails additionnels:
Take a low-risk shot at Tito finding his form, think he fits well with the long-term outlook of the team.
NYI
  1. Dillon, Brenden
  2. Vesalainen, Kristian [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
NYI gets even bigger and even meaner on the backend, hopefully a change of scenery will serve Vesalainen well.
3.
WPG
  1. Askarov, Yaroslav
  2. Johansen, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
Johansen isn't a super steep dropoff from Scheif's production, contract is a lot but getting a goalie of the future feels worth 8x3.
NSH
  1. Scheifele, Mark
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
NSH gets some offensive pop while clearing cap, makes them better soon as he hits the ice.
4.
WPG
  1. Blackwood, Mackenzie
  2. Foote, Nolan
  3. Sharangovich, Yegor
Détails additionnels:
Get younger and fully commit to a rebuild, give Hellebuyck a chance to compete in his prime.
NJD
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor
Détails additionnels:
NJD has the money to spend, Hellebuyck's contract isn't too much for them to re-sign Bratt. Losing depth scoring hurts but they had a chance to be a playoff time last year if they got even average goaltending.
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $74 525 357 $0 $2 262 500 $7 974 643 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
DG
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1

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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 4
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Keep PLD, bye
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 5
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You don't get traction or go forward by trading good players for bad players.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 7
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The more confident NJD fan in me does this trade. But would rather send a pick than Sharangovich.
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 7
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Quoting: Windjammer
You don't get traction or go forward by trading good players for bad players.


You gain traction by committing to either competing or rebuilding, nothing worse than just being in the middle of the league for as long as the Jets have been and will be unless they change their ways.
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 8
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
The more confident NJD fan in me does this trade. But would rather send a pick than Sharangovich.


I think Yegor will command some good $ next season, so that's why I added him in over a pick/prospect. Also, the team is too good to keep trotting out unserious goaltending.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 9
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Byron + Dvorak + Harris + the later of Montreal's 2 1st round picks, if both are top 10 it becomes a 2024 unprotected 1st.
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That is an easy no for the Isles. The D is set for next year and trading Beau would have to return a forward.

As of right now the Isles only need is a proven top 6 scorer.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 10
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Quoting: Campabee
Byron + Dvorak + Harris + the later of Montreal's 2 1st round picks, if both are top 10 it becomes a 2024 unprotected 1st.


I don't hate it, I just want to cheer for Guhle on a team I can stomach lol.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 11
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You could probably get more for Hellebuyck right now considering the Goalie market.
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 12
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That is an easy no for the Isles. The D is set for next year and trading Beau would have to return a forward.

As of right now the Isles only need is a proven top 6 scorer.


Sonny Milano still on the market, think he matches or does more than Beau, trade gives them some cap wiggle room. Understand your explanation but Lou loves him some big Dmen like Dillon, so maybe I'll keep my fingers crossed.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 13
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For some reason I think Barron will be the target. Right hand D. Not sure what the rest of the deal will look like.
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 14
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Quoting: Halfy
You could probably get more for Hellebuyck right now considering the Goalie market.


I was tempted to throw one of Holtz/Stillman in the trade but decided against just based on Helle's age and contract atm. As good as he is, the contract he's due for gives me pause -- so many 30+ goalies in the league on bad contracts right now, can see him becoming one of them down the line.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 15
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Sonny Milano still on the market, think he matches or does more than Beau, trade gives them some cap wiggle room. Understand your explanation but Lou loves him some big Dmen like Dillon, so maybe I'll keep my fingers crossed.


Milano is best suited as a 3rd line guy IMO. Beau is currently the only guy besides Barzal in the top 6 that has speed. The Isles cannot afford to get even slower at forward.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 15
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Winnipeg needs firsts in any deals, squad lives and dies on team control and drafting above average.
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 16
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Quoting: Warrior24
Milano is best suited as a 3rd line guy IMO. Beau is currently the only guy besides Barzal in the top 6 that has speed. The Isles cannot afford to get even slower at forward.


Respectfully, has it worked in NYI for him though? I agree the Isles need him, but his name has been in rumours for what feels like 2-3 years now. Think a change of scenery may be on its way.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 17
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Quoting: Iggy11
I was tempted to throw one of Holtz/Stillman in the trade but decided against just based on Helle's age and contract atm. As good as he is, the contract he's due for gives me pause -- so many 30+ goalies in the league on bad contracts right now, can see him becoming one of them down the line.


Yeah, but he's also only got 2 years left at a reasonable cap hit
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 17
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Quoting: Birtle34
Winnipeg needs firsts in any deals, squad lives and dies on team control and drafting above average.


I opted for "older" prospects for the sake of keeping Connor-Ehlers happy. Don't want them wasting their prime years on a basement team waiting on a future 1st to make the leap to the show.
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 18
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Quoting: Iggy11
Sonny Milano still on the market, think he matches or does more than Beau, trade gives them some cap wiggle room. Understand your explanation but Lou loves him some big Dmen like Dillon, so maybe I'll keep my fingers crossed.


Lou also loves gritty two way forwards who perform in the playoffs (like Beau) . Can you explain how Milano matches more than Beau?

Isles are set at D, I’ve never heard of a team trading a top 6 forward to fill the 7th defenseman role
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Respectfully, has it worked in NYI for him though? I agree the Isles need him, but his name has been in rumours for what feels like 2-3 years now. Think a change of scenery may be on its way.


Beaus name has not been rumored for 2-3 years
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 19
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Quoting: Halfy
Yeah, but he's also only got 2 years left at a reasonable cap hit


Yeah his current contract is no reason for pause -- I'd say it's one of the best in the NHL. My worry is the contract after this one. Think of Bobrovsky, Price, etc. With the workload WPG has given him over the years I wouldn't be surprised to see him follow the same path as the guys mentioned.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 19
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I think Yegor will command some good $ next season, so that's why I added him in over a pick/prospect. Also, the team is too good to keep trotting out unserious goaltending.


STORY OF MY LIFE!!

I am more willing to pay the price for a top-10 goalie than for a winger.

I think I sent these in another thread a while back:

1. A 2023 1st round pick (top-5 protected, rolls to unprotected 2024 1st)
2. Blackwood
3. Your choice of Daws, Schmid, (or I guess Brennan)
4. Your choice of Walsh, Boqvist, Thompson, Zetterlund, McCarthy (or similar level prospect)

or

1. 2023 or 2024 2nd round pick
2. Blackwood
3. Your choice of Daws, Schmid, (or I guess Brennan)
4. Your choice of Foote, Holtz, Gritsyuk
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 21
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Lou also loves gritty two way forwards who perform in the playoffs (like Beau) . Can you explain how Milano matches more than Beau?

Isles are set at D, I’ve never heard of a team trading a top 6 forward to fill the 7th defenseman role


Forgot about the Romanov trade, my fault.
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 21
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Quoting: Iggy11
Respectfully, has it worked in NYI for him though? I agree the Isles need him, but his name has been in rumours for what feels like 2-3 years now. Think a change of scenery may be on its way.


He is included in most "rumors" because everyone else (Lee, Nelson, Palmeri) all have NTC, and no one wants Bailey at his cap hit. So bloggers/ writers speculate that he would be the guy to go. I do not expect him to ever be more than a 20/20 guy at most, but he does help create offense with his speed and forecheck and would hate to trade Barzal's best friend on the team before you have to re-sign him long term.
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 21
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I don't hate it, I just want to cheer for Guhle on a team I can stomach lol.


LOL the issue is outside of Guhle we have no D man that projects to be a top pairing guy.
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 22
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Quoting: Iggy11
I opted for "older" prospects for the sake of keeping Connor-Ehlers happy. Don't want them wasting their prime years on a basement team waiting on a future 1st to make the leap to the show.

Not sure there is a keep Connor and ehlers happy scenario, quite possibly the jets two best jets and two best contracts, might be a sell high scenario, going to be rough on fan base and organization. But could be In the cards next off season, a lot riding on this season. Would be nice to find 3 more firsts along with there own and have 5 firsts to go with last 3 firsts going forward.
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