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Per RDSNRD NYR and WPG are discussing Dubois

Créé par: Book_Hockey
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 29 juin 2022
Publié: 29 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Preliminary offer- thoughts?
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NYR
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Schneider, Braden
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
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29 juin 2022 à 10 h 39
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Add kakko and a high pick and take out chytil
29 juin 2022 à 10 h 40
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It looks like that could be a start anyways.
29 juin 2022 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: TheWhiteWhale
Add kakko and a high pick and MAYBE you’re there


Thought about adding Kakko but wanted to get a feel for where both sides stood before adding or subtracting
29 juin 2022 à 10 h 47
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Quoting: Book_Hockey
Thought about adding Kakko but wanted to get a feel for where both sides stood before adding or subtracting


Winnipeg already has a bunch of left shot wingers, and I would imagine unless they put Perfetti up the middle, they would want a center in return.
29 juin 2022 à 10 h 48
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Thought about adding Kakko but wanted to get a feel for where both sides stood before adding or subtracting

Kakko has to go in the trade imo.. but I did edit cause idk the leverage WPG has by saying PLD is gonna hit UFA in 2 years.. but it is NY so if he’s willing to sign an 8 year extension it’s gonna be a much larger ask in a trade
29 juin 2022 à 10 h 48
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Take out Chytil add Kakko and a 2nd and it's probably pretty close.
29 juin 2022 à 10 h 50
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I say accept.

Chytil had a pretty impressive post season and can slot in the 2c spot, Schneider fills a need and would be a great addition.
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29 juin 2022 à 10 h 53
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None of the kids on the roster will be in this proposal: Lundkvist, Pajuniemi and Vaisinen are of great interest, as is Robertson and possibly Garand.
29 juin 2022 à 10 h 53
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How would the Rangers fit under the cap? If PLD gets 7 mil (could be closer to 8), that would give them about 7.25 million for 9 players. The depth would be horrible.
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29 juin 2022 à 10 h 55
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Quoting: HockeyDanz
None of the kids on the roster will be in this proposal: Lundkvist, Pajuniemi and Vaisinen are of great interest, as is Robertson and possibly Garand.[/quote

Nobody you mentioned outside of Lundkvist is of any interest to WPG
29 juin 2022 à 10 h 56
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Quoting: sabresparaavida
How would the Rangers fit under the cap? If PLD gets 7 mil (could be closer to 8), that would give them about 7.25 million for 9 players. The depth would be horrible.


No idea! I assume Trouba will be dealt at some point
29 juin 2022 à 11 h 0
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In case anyone is looking for the original tweet from Gagnon (RDS):



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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 5
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As @sabresparaavida so accurately points out, you have $14 million in cap space with 10 slots open, one of whom will be DuBois. (And substituting Kakko for Chytil makes it $2.3 million worse minus Kakko's resigning number.) It seems to me like very short-sighted strategy to give up all those futures plus any chance to sign a free agent (including Copp) in return for him.
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 6
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Quoting: Book_Hockey
No idea! I assume Trouba will be dealt at some point


"NMC" means "No Movement Clause," which in Trouba's instance doesn't allow trades without a player waiver until July, 2024.
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 8
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
As sabresparaavida so accurately points out, you have $14 million in cap space with 10 slots open, one of whom will be DuBois. (And substituting Kakko for Chytil makes it $2.3 million worse minus Kakko's resigning number.) It seems to me like very short-sighted strategy to give up all those futures plus any chance to sign a free agent (including Copp) in return for him.


I'm constantly amazed why folks think PLD is about an 8m player. Rangers don't have the cap for him and really shouldn't be giving up good young assets for him. Just much better value in the UFA market.
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 9
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
"NMC" means "No Movement Clause," which in Trouba's instance doesn't allow trades without a player waiver until July, 2024.


I’m aware- that also coincides with the expiration of PLD’s contract
29 juin 2022 à 11 h 12
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
"NMC" means "No Movement Clause," which in Trouba's instance doesn't allow trades without a player waiver until July, 2024.

Left field theory, bread man to Florida, bobrovsky to Winnipeg and Dubois to ny. And a ton of different other craziness lol
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 13
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I'm constantly amazed why folks think PLD is about an 8m player. Rangers don't have the cap for him and really shouldn't be giving up good young assets for him. Just much better value in the UFA market.


Hmmmm . . . which is better: Pierre Luc Dubois, or Andrew Copp, Filip Chytil, Braden Schneider, the 2023 first-round draft pick, and about $2 million in cap space?
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 29
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[quoteAb=Mr_Canoehead;3367102]In case anyone is looking for the original tweet from Gagnon (RDS):



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Any chance you can translate that?!.. lol 😆
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 31
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
[quoteAb=Mr_Canoehead;3367102]In case anyone is looking for the original tweet from Gagnon (RDS):





Any chance you can translate that?!.. lol 😆[/quote]

The twitter translate bot (my French is crap):

"By the way, according to information obtained during the final, the #Rangers of New York would be more than interested in acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois. Ongoing negotiations with the #Jets on the parameters of a transaction. It's not done, but Chris Drury is very interested"
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 32
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Hmmmm . . . which is better: Pierre Luc Dubois, or Andrew Copp, Filip Chytil, Braden Schneider, the 2023 first-round draft pick, and about $2 million in cap space?


You're right.....How about this Kadri at 8m X 4....and the Rangers keep those assets, and if they need cap space trade Chytil or Kakko for an asset. As we both kinda suggest.....giving up a lot for a RFA and paying that RFA UFA money seems like a losing process for the "buying" team
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 32
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Per who?
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 34
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I'm constantly amazed why folks think PLD is about an 8m player. Rangers don't have the cap for him and really shouldn't be giving up good young assets for him. Just much better value in the UFA market.


He's a good 2C who is about to be expensive and now may be moved to this 3rd team already. Don't get it
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29 juin 2022 à 11 h 35
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Per who?


Francois Gagnon, RDS.
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