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Would Toronto Accept

Créé par: Tonys_Pizza
Date de création initiale: 23 juin 2022
Publié: 23 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Predators de Nashville
Transactions
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NSH
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  3. 2022 1e round pick (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
TML would buyout Myers for the cap benefit
TOR
  1. Saros, Juuse
  2. Myers, Philippe
Rachats de contrats
  • Kyle Turris: 2 000 000 $
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
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Tolvanen, Eeli
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Jeannot, Tanner
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Duchene, Matt
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Tomasino, Philip
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Granlund, Mikael
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Nurmi, Markus
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Olivier, Mathieu
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Josi, Roman
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Carrier, Alexandre
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Mrázek, Petr
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Lauzon, Jérémy
2 000 000 $
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Borowiecki, Mark
900 000 $
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23 juin à 21 h 36
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If they didn't, Dubas would be exiled to Yukon
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23 juin à 21 h 36
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I would take that and run tor needs to add in that scenario
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23 juin à 21 h 37
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Yes, That is a franchise elite starting goaltender for a B+ prospect and a late 1st.
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23 juin à 21 h 37
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They hit accept and won’t relax till it’s gone thru
23 juin à 21 h 38
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Zero chance i see David Poile dealing Juuse Saros.
23 juin à 21 h 39
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Quoting: Caniac2000
If they didn't, Dubas would be exiled to Yukon


What would balance the trade more than for each side? Make it a 2023 first? Add more picks?
23 juin à 21 h 39
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Zero chance i see David Poile dealing Juuse Saros.


Saros 100% could be dealt. It would need 10x this return, but 100% could happen.
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23 juin à 21 h 40
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Quoting: jassan28
Yes, That is a franchise elite starting goaltender for a B+ prospect and a late 1st.


Knies is not a B+ he’s more of an a- this trade is essentially knies for saros Toronto would add 2 firsts in this trade
23 juin à 21 h 40
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What would balance the trade more than for each side? Make it a 2023 first? Add more picks?


2 leafs firsts
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23 juin à 21 h 42
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Saros 100% could be dealt. It would need 10x this return, but 100% could happen.


Not saying it's not impossible, but it's definitely not happening for that return.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Zero chance i see David Poile dealing Juuse Saros.


I’d argue Nashville cup window does not align with saros. So wouldn’t the best opportunity for Nashville be to target a window with Askarov and this would also be an excellent opportunity for saros in the peak of his career to play on a team that is in the middle of their window?
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What would balance the trade more than for each side? Make it a 2023 first? Add more picks?


Goaltender values are hard to pick, but if I'm Poile here, the only piece (outside of Matthews) that Toronto has that interests me is Nylander. Knies is going to be good. Abrusseze and Robertson are good, nothing special. Lilly and Sandin are good, not special. There's no cream of the crop blue-chip prospect that makes sense here in my opinion. I don't know the Toronto system as well as I know others, so that's without doing any research, but that's my initial reaction.
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23 juin à 21 h 43
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Knies is not a B+ he’s more of an a- this trade is essentially knies for saros Toronto would add 2 firsts in this trade


Saros is a Vezina candidate goaltender, aka the 3rd best goaltender in the NHL. Knies ain't close to being a Top 10 prospect let alone the impact Saros has for his team
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Saros 100% could be dealt. It would need 10x this return, but 100% could happen.


Honestly if you could move Saros , now would be the time. His value won’t go higher with his contract years coming down and his play is elite. If they can get 2nd overall for him and draft Cooley, that could be their 1C in a few years. And Askarov can replace Saros. Duchene, Johansen and Granlund are pretty meh
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23 juin à 21 h 44
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Goaltender values are hard to pick, but if I'm Poile here, the only piece (outside of Matthews) that Toronto has that interests me is Nylander. Knies is going to be good. Abrusseze and Robertson are good, nothing special. Lilly and Sandin are good, not special. There's no cream of the crop blue-chip prospect that makes sense here in my opinion. I don't know the Toronto system as well as I know others, so that's without doing any research, but that's my initial reaction.


I would give up Willy+ for saros any day as long as it’s somewhat reasonable
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Quoting: jassan28
Saros is a Vezina candidate goaltender, aka the 3rd best goaltender in the NHL. Knies ain't close to being a Top 10 prospect let alone the impact Saros has for his team


Without Saros Nashville is immediately in the Conner Bedard sweepstakes though.
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I’d argue Nashville cup window does not align with saros. So wouldn’t the best opportunity for Nashville be to target a window with Askarov and this would also be an excellent opportunity for saros in the peak of his career to play on a team that is in the middle of their window?


Once Askarov takes the reins, Then yes Saros is out the door. But i doubt that's anytime soon.
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The question is will the preds accept
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23 juin à 21 h 50
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Without Saros Nashville is immediately in the Conner Bedard sweepstakes though.


Oilers place Holloway and 2023 1st, and more
23 juin à 21 h 51
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Honestly if you could move Saros , now would be the time. His value won’t go higher with his contract years coming down and his play is elite. If they can get 2nd overall for him and draft Cooley, that could be their 1C in a few years. And Askarov can replace Saros. Duchene, Johansen and Granlund are pretty meh


To be completely honest if I was Poile that’s exactly what I’d do if we lose forsberg. I’d also tell josi that we’re about to rebuild and if you wanna win a cup I’ll send to a contender or someone that is close. Josi would also bring back a haul. Jeannot is another one that could bring back something good.
Fun to talk about but Poile will never rebuild he’s good with being good enough.

As for this proposal I think is really weak and I said this before that Toronto doesn’t really have anything I’d want if we were to trade saros. I’m not in love with any of their prospects. I’d look to a team with better prospects
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Quoting: jassan28
Yes, That is a franchise elite starting goaltender for a B+ prospect and a late 1st.


Dubas considers him an A prospect, but he would do the trade except I don't think he would want to buy our Myers (perhaps bring in another team to retain part of his cap).
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Quoting: Tonys_Pizza
Without Saros Nashville is immediately in the Conner Bedard sweepstakes though.


Bedard, Cooley and Askarov. Pretty good future
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23 juin à 21 h 53
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To be completely honest if I was Poile that’s exactly what I’d do if we lose forsberg. I’d also tell josi that we’re about to rebuild and if you wanna win a come I’ll send to a contender or someone that is close. Josi would also bring back a haul. Jeannot is another one that could bring back something good.
Fun to talk about but Poile will never rebuild he’s good with being good enough.

As for this proposal I think is really weak and I said this before that Toronto doesn’t really have anything I’d want if we were to trade saros. I’m not in love with any of there prospects. I’d look to a team with better prospects


If you don’t retool now, you’ll be rebuilding in 3 years. I think it’s a must. Jeannot could probably return a Hagel like package
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23 juin à 21 h 56
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Oilers place Holloway and 2023 1st, and more


Depends on what the more is but that’s a solid start. Saros in Edmonton would be a real solid pick up for them and would put them in true contender mode for years.
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Quoting: GeauxPreds1
To be completely honest if I was Poile that’s exactly what I’d do if we lose forsberg. I’d also tell josi that we’re about to rebuild and if you wanna win a cup I’ll send to a contender or someone that is close. Josi would also bring back a haul. Jeannot is another one that could bring back something good.
Fun to talk about but Poile will never rebuild he’s good with being good enough.

As for this proposal I think is really weak and I said this before that Toronto doesn’t really have anything I’d want if we were to trade saros. I’m not in love with any of their prospects. I’d look to a team with better prospects


There would be a massive bidding war for sure, so even if there ask was something like this, the return would increase. I think Jersey would potentially give a great package.
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