Gibson and Fiala will be Capitals per source

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Créé par: OviTheGr8

Équipe: 2022-23 Capitals de Washington

Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2022

Publié: 14 juin 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Note: I am the source

Rationale (yes I know I'm an idiot):

Sheary is cheap undersized winger that Minnesota covets who has won (particularly in Pitt where Guerin was in FO) and given their cap constraints, I think a former first round defensemen, a second (possibly conditional) and Sheary could get something done (maybe?)

Ducks get a younger but less reliable goalie in Samsonov as well as Leason who projects as a top-9 power forward as well as draft capital for a goalie who reportedly has bad body language due to the lack of team success and would be willing to move who is in win now mode.

Eller trade could be to anywhere so before Wings fans come at me, just figured since Stevie Y has signed vets at deadline and flipped them for assets so was my first thought.

Moves allow Wilson to come back late December, January from ACL and Backstrom to "maybe" come back and play for playoffs after Friedman reported that there is a procedure that Backstrom is considering with a grueling recovery so who really knows.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Johansen, Lucas	1	850 000 $
Leason, Brett	1	850 000 $
Malenstyn, Beck	1	850 000 $
Samsonov, Ilya	1	2 500 000 $
Vanecek, Vitek	1	2 500 000 $
Fiala, Kevin	7	7 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Nichushkin, Valeri	5	5 750 000 $
Johansson, Marcus	3	1 500 000 $
Hunt, Brad	2	800 000 $

Transactions

WSH

Gibson, John

ANA

Leason, Brett
Samsonov, Ilya
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WSH)

WSH

Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (DET)

DET

Eller, Lars

Détails additionnels:

Stevie Y loves signing vets to flip at deadline so why not. Could be to any team

WSH

Fiala, Kevin [Droits de RFA]

MIN

Alexeyev, Alexander
Sheary, Conor
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	66 419 167 $	100 000 $	82 500 $	16 080 833 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Ovechkin, Alex 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Kuznetsov, Evgeny 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Nichushkin, Valeri 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 8
Fiala, Kevin 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 7	McMichael, Connor 863 333 $863 333 $ AG, C RFA - 2	Mantha, Anthony 2 850 000 $2 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Johansson, Marcus 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Protas, Aliaksei 789 167 $789 167 $ (82 500 $$82K) AD, AG, C UFA - 2	Oshie, T.J. 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 3
Jonsson-Fjällby, Axel 750 000 $750 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Dowd, Nic 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ C UFA - 3	Hathaway, Garnet 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Fehérváry, Martin 791 667 $791 667 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Carlson, John 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	Gibson, John 6 400 000 $6 400 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 5
Orlov, Dmitry 1 275 000 $1 275 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Jensen, Nick 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Vanecek, Vitek 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ G UFA - 3
Johansen, Lucas 850 000 $850 000 $ DG UFA - 2	van Riemsdyk, Trevor 950 000 $950 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Snively, Joe 800 000 $800 000 $ AG UFA - 2		Bäckström, Nicklas 9 200 000 $9 200 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3
Hunt, Brad 800 000 $800 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2		Hagelin, Carl 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG UFA - 1
		Wilson, Tom 5 166 667 $5 166 667 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Mantha, A.		Oshie, T.		Kuznetsov, E.
	Ovechkin, A.		Carlson, J.

Avantage numérique 2
Nichushkin, V.		McMichael, C.		Fiala, K.
	Ovechkin, A.		Orlov, D.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Dowd, N.	Hathaway, G.
	Orlov, D.	Jensen, N.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Nichushkin, V.	Kuznetsov, E.
	Fehérváry, M.	Carlson, J.

14 juin 2022 à 13 h 48

Salzy

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for a goalie who reportedly has bad body language due to the lack of team success and would be willing to move who is in win now mode.

Gibson himself came out today and said those claim are false

He said he wants to spend his entire career in ANA

Doesn't mean he wont be moved, but it does mean it'll take a lot more than the offer above

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14 juin 2022 à 13 h 52

Lenny7

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Quoting: Salzy

If I saw a player who reportedly had "bad body language", I certainly wouldn't then throw him in as the starting goaltender on a contending team

Brett Leason...C'monnnnnnnnn

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14 juin 2022 à 13 h 56

staytru20

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I don't wanna burst your bubble on Fiala, but Evolving Hockey has his next contract projected to be in the neighborhood of 8 years, $9.444M AAV. I'd totally be on board for Fiala, since he's 25 and all, but you'd have to be pretty certain that Backstrom is LTIRetired before you make a move like that.

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14 juin 2022 à 14 h 3

Wildnochance

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A capdump, nobody prospect and 2nd round pick doesn't get you fiala, at all. Everyone knows who sheary is, he's not good.

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14 juin 2022 à 14 h 7

SlevinKalevra

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Not enough for Fiala. Minny will need more/better assets and Fiala will need more money

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14 juin 2022 à 14 h 8

TZ11

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Quoting: Salzy

Quoting: Lenny7

If I saw a player who reportedly had "bad body language", I certainly wouldn't then throw him in as the starting goaltender on a contending team

Brett Leason...C'monnnnnnnnn

You both basically said what I wanted to say lol. At this point I do think it's more likely he gets traded than not. I think Verbeek should trade him because I think his value will decrease a lot if the Ducks (ad Gibson himself) continue to play the same way next year. I love Gibby and I don't want to see him leave, but I kinda think it's time for everyone to move on. Gibson could bounce back on a good team and I'd love it if he won a cup, I want to see him succeed whether that is in Anaheim or elsewhere.

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14 juin 2022 à 14 h 9

OviTheGr8

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Quoting: Lenny7

If I saw a player who reportedly had "bad body language", I certainly wouldn't then throw him in as the starting goaltender on a contending team

Brett Leason...C'monnnnnnnnn

Wahhhhh Wahhhhh Wahhhhh this is why im not a GM my guy

14 juin 2022 à 14 h 11

aedoran

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Well Eller is 33 make it a 5th and you have a deal.

14 juin 2022 à 14 h 13

Lenny7

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Quoting: TZ11

Meh. I'm fine if he gets moved, but GMPV needs to set a price, and if someone offers it, great, if not, keep him. Trading him simply for the sake of trading him isn't good asset management. My main thing here-It's not like this summer is the last time he can be traded. *IF* his value is as low as some perceive it to be (which is weird since the poll of NHL Execs had him as a top 5 goalie...), then it's not like that's going to get worse.

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14 juin 2022 à 14 h 14

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Quoting: OviTheGr8

Wahhhhh Wahhhhh Wahhhhh this is why im not a GM my guy

I mean, if you could pull off that heist you'd probably end up as GM of the year...

14 juin 2022 à 14 h 14

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qc14

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Quoting: Salzy

So which Gibson is it that Ducks fans have been watching the past 3 years???? Has he started off strong then been bad late in seasons because the games weren't meaningful and the defense in front of him (2 of whom were traded this past deadline for a first, a second, and a good prospect) was bad? Sounds like a bad teammate who doesn't compete hard. Is it because the Ducks rode him into the ground and he has lingering injury issues? Not great for a guy who is getting 6.2m for the next 5 years to have those. Or has he just been straight up not good? Then why would anyone pay "much more" in the first place?

Gibson probably will get more than that offer, like swapping out the second for a first and a better prospect than leason, but not much more.

14 juin 2022 à 14 h 17

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Quoting: Wildnochance

A capdump, nobody prospect and 2nd round pick doesn't get you fiala, at all. Everyone knows who sheary is, he's not good.

Don't get me wrong thats not enough for Fiala but Sheary is making 1.5 mil and put up 40 points last year with very little power play time, not at all a cap dump and the type of guy I assume the wild would be all over. Alexeyev will also play in the NHL next year, has second pair upside.

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14 juin 2022 à 14 h 18

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Salzy

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Quoting: qc14

The same Gibson that has played the second most amount of games and faced the second most amount of shots over the past 5 years while playing for a bottom 10 team in the league over that span.

I love the couch GMs that claim to know inside workings of locker rooms without a single connection

The Athletic polled anonymous GMs, execs and former players at the start of last season and they ranked Gibson 5th in the league, the people who have opinions that matter clearly see Gibson as a top 10 goalie in the league still.

Ducks have no reason to trade him unless they get blown away, a late first and a B prospect doesnt get close to him

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14 juin 2022 à 14 h 23

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This isn't getting you near Gibson or Fiala.

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14 juin 2022 à 15 h 38

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TZ11

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Quoting: Lenny7

Oh yeah, should've specified. Verbeek shouldn't be selling low, either he gets what he wants for Gibson or he stays in Anaheim. I should've worded it differently: If Verbeek gets a good offer, he should do it. Definitely not the last time he can be traded but I feel like this summer his value is still the same as it has been the last few seasons. But if his stats are similar next season (whether that is all because of him or not is irrelevant imo), I think GMs won't be willing to pay as much anymore.

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14 juin 2022 à 15 h 44

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Wildnochance

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Quoting: qc14

Connor s is an old, bottom line player Minnesota has enough of, so no they won't. They have no need for a d prospect when they already have 9 d under contract and bunch of top d prospects. So it's a ****ty offer for fiala

14 juin 2022 à 15 h 54

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qc14

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Quoting: Wildnochance

I literally said its not enough for Fiala. What is with the Sheary slander? He's 29 on a super cheap contract for one more year, played up and down the lineup including an extended run on the top line and was > .5ppg

14 juin 2022 à 15 h 59

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Wildnochance

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Quoting: qc14

Saying he's a bottom line player isn't a slander. He's no different than freddy G. So it's not an attack on him, but Minnesota did need him. A d prospect will have no room in Minnesota. So sheary and the d prospect need to be replaced and talk starts with 1st round pick

14 juin 2022 à 16 h 33

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OldNYIfan

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"Gibson and Fiala will be Capitals per source"

Didn't your source also tell you that you'll have to spend a first-round draft pick to get either one? Plus a lot more?

14 juin 2022 à 17 h 38

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TampaBayLightning22

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Anaheim and Minny pass, Not close for John Gibson or Kevin Fiala.

And Kevin Fiala will get closer to 8 x 8.5mil not your low ball offer.

14 juin 2022 à 17 h 50

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Quoting: staytru20

I don’t think he will get that much. I imagine Fiala gets 7.5m to 8m depending. As a wild fan, I would love for someone to give him an 8.5m offer sheet but if thats where the market values him I bet Minnesota gets way way way better trade offers

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