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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 13 juin 2022
Publié: 13 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
It's time.

Some moves happen this summer. Explanations provided for said moves.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
89 000 000 $
54 200 000 $
21 000 000 $
42 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
87 800 000 $
89 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
55 000 000 $
11 200 000 $
54 800 000 $
23 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Offer sheet of $4.2 million. While NYR would certainly want to match, they've got cap issues with Kakko, Georgiev, Blais as RFAs, and Strome, Copp, Vartrano as UFAs. Plus Lafreniere and Miller need to be paid in 23-24.
NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Offer sheet in July 2022.
2.
OTT
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
CHI gets 7OA pick this year plus 3 excellent roster players. Pinto has 2C potential, Formenton is middle six LW, Branny can be a scoring top 4 dman.
CHI
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Formenton, Alex [Droits de RFA]
  3. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Trade made at 2022 Draft.
3.
OTT
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Buffalo needs a goalie and Murray at $4 mil is a great option.
BUF
  1. Murray, Matt (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
Trade made in 2022.
4.
OTT
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Trade made in 2022.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2184 500 000 $83 799 879 $0 $2 775 000 $700 121 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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7 800 000 $7 800 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 3
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DD
RFA - 1

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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 10
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I would just do

Murray
Greig
Brannstrom
7th overall
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 10
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We match
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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 13
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NYR match
Definitely causes them to alter their plans regarding others...and both Reaves and Nemeth would have to be moved. But all that would be worth it to preserve Kakko rather than jettison for a sole 2nd. And with that term NYR might actually thank OTT for the negotiating.
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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 13
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Quoting: csick
I would just do

Murray
Greig
Brannstrom
7th overall


If CHI takes that, then I'm 100% in.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 15
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If I'm the Hawks, I would pass because A) I'm not high on Pinto and B) we get a higher prospect/impact player offered from other teams that can be potentially as good as Cat
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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 16
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
We match


Figured you would.

I'm not a Rangers fan, but am honestly wondering how Drury fits in the RFAs and UFAs this year, and then Laff and Miller next year. Some serious cap management about to happen.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 17
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Figured you would.

I'm not a Rangers fan, but am honestly wondering how Drury fits in the RFAs and UFAs this year, and then Laff and Miller next year. Some serious cap management about to happen.


We have over 3 million in buyouts coming off the books next offseason, its not much but its a start
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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 18
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If I'm the Hawks, I would pass because A) I'm not high on Pinto and B) we get a higher prospect/impact player offered from other teams that can be potentially as good as Cat


Your loss. Pinto is a stud
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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 21
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Quoting: backpacker10
Figured you would.

I'm not a Rangers fan, but am honestly wondering how Drury fits in the RFAs and UFAs this year, and then Laff and Miller next year. Some serious cap management about to happen.


You're including Georgiev, Strome, Copp, and Vartrano in the serious cap management. At most, one F is brought back.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 24
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Your loss. Pinto is a stud


He's good yes, but I'm not as high on him as some Ottawa fans are; I should have qualified the statement. Nonetheless, let's say the Devils offer the #2OA and Holtz, would you pass that up for this offer?
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 25
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5x5 for Brown is steep.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 34
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You're including Georgiev, Strome, Copp, and Vartrano in the serious cap management. At most, one F is brought back.


Still a lot of slots to fill with only approx. $13 mil in cap space. If I'm New York, I'd match the offer sheet, but the team has some tough decisions. Strome has been an excellent 2C. Copp was a great pick up at the deadline.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 34
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Quoting: ChiHawk
He's good yes, but I'm not as high on him as some Ottawa fans are; I should have qualified the statement. Nonetheless, let's say the Devils offer the #2OA and Holtz, would you pass that up for this offer?


Def not. But do I think the Devils would offer that? I don’t think

They’d probably offer either of the following packages:

Mukhamadullin/Smith
Gritsyuk
Zacha
2nd overall

Mukhamadullin/Smith
Holtz
Zacha
2023 1st (top 5 protected )
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 35
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He's good yes, but I'm not as high on him as some Ottawa fans are; I should have qualified the statement. Nonetheless, let's say the Devils offer the #2OA and Holtz, would you pass that up for this offer?


Truthfully, I don't understand why CHI would even entertain a DeBrincat trade. He's at the perfect age to rebould a team around. But 2OA and Holtz - if they're trading him, that's a nice package for sure.
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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 36
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Quoting: Addy_2929
5x5 for Brown is steep.


I respectfully disagree. I actually think he can be our 2nd line RW. He's got Hyman-like qualities and has been one of our best, most consistent forwards. Every contending team needs a Connor Brown.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 39
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Quoting: csick
Your loss. Pinto is a stud


Quoting: Addy_2929
5x5 for Brown is steep.


Your team is likely still over the cap not sure if it goes up for the 23-24 season.

Brown at 5 per 5 is a bit steep, I realize that is probably what it would take to keep him thou.
Norris and Stuztle contracts would be ideal, I doubt both those get done at those numbers but here is hoping.
IF by the 23-24 season one of JDB or Thompson are not playing 2nd pairing then that would be a huge miss on the development coaches and a huge loss. But Miller would be a good stop gap.
NY matches that offer sheet in two seconds and says thank you for making our life easy.

I am on the fence with the Debrinkcat trade, I Don't think moving Pinto is a great idea, yes we have Stuzle and Norris at Center, but he could have some great value as a 3C and would be able to move up the lineup if needed. He hasn't grown his Faceoff numbers but if they get anywhere near the level he was doing in college that alone will make him so valuable as a PK asset.
Same with Formenton, the speed and PK asset a huge value with the cap hit he is going to come in at. Again another guy that has shown that if needed he can move up the lineup and play the top 6 minutes.

I am really hoping that this year we get a good number of games with a 3rd line of Formenton - Pinto - Joseph, the speed and lineup matches they would draw would make them a lethal secondary scoring threat. Not to mention any combo of those players or throw brown in is also top 10 PK unit in the league.

If you can do Branstromm, 7th OA, a 2nd, and Grieg or JDB I would be more inclined to make that trade. Then slide brown with Debrinkcat and Stuztle, mentioned third line above, then you have an every better line up.
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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 40
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Def not. But do I think the Devils would offer that? I don’t think

They’d probably offer either of the following packages:

Mukhamadullin/Smith
Gritsyuk
Zacha
2nd overall

Mukhamadullin/Smith
Holtz
Zacha
2023 1st (top 5 protected )


I doubt Holtz is made available, that guy has a rocket of a shot and is going to score a lot of goals in this league.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 41
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Quoting: csick
Def not. But do I think the Devils would offer that? I don’t think

They’d probably offer either of the following packages:

Mukhamadullin/Smith
Gritsyuk
Zacha
2nd overall

Mukhamadullin/Smith
Holtz
Zacha
2023 1st (top 5 protected )


I think they will do better then that personally.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 42
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I doubt Holtz is made available, that guy has a rocket of a shot and is going to score a lot of goals in this league.


If you're the Devils do you want Holtz or Cat; I guess that is the question
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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 43
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Truthfully, I don't understand why CHI would even entertain a DeBrincat trade. He's at the perfect age to rebould a team around. But 2OA and Holtz - if they're trading him, that's a nice package for sure.


Yes and no. If this is a teardown rebuild then maybe not as that would be 4 to 5 years out before the Hawks are competitive again. If it's a softer rebuild, 2 to 3 years then I agree Cat should stay and become your centerpiece of that kind of rebuild.
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13 juin 2022 à 11 h 43
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Quoting: csick
Def not. But do I think the Devils would offer that? I don’t think

They’d probably offer either of the following packages:

Mukhamadullin/Smith
Gritsyuk
Zacha
2nd overall

Mukhamadullin/Smith
Holtz
Zacha
2023 1st (top 5 protected )


I think Zacha is a sneaky real good pick-up for the sens to play with Stuzle, how would you feel about that and what could OTT offer to get his RFA rights?
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 45
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If you're the Devils do you want Holtz or Cat; I guess that is the question


That's a coin flip in my mind. I think Holtz can deff be a regualr 40 goal scorer, but Cat already is, I guess the answer really comes to what does a Cat extension look like.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 46
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Quoting: NDoody
I think Zacha is a sneaky real good pick-up for the sens to play with Stuzle, how would you feel about that and what could OTT offer to get his RFA rights?


I just wouldn’t make any acquisition Unless he’s a major upgrade on Brown or Formenton and Zacha isn’t .
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 47
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That's a coin flip in my mind. I think Holtz can deff be a regualr 40 goal scorer, but Cat already is, I guess the answer really comes to what does a Cat extension look like.


I think the risk is there with Holtz obviously. He's got a wicked shot, but I wouldn't say any better then Cat so it's wash there. The question is will he be able to find the space and time in the NHL to use it, and will he be a contributor on defense like Cat is? It's risk versus bird in the hand debate.

Cat's qualifying offer is $9M.
13 juin 2022 à 11 h 49
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NYR match


Do it. I hope it happens
 
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