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Scheifele

Créé par: Bruins1054_gmb
Équipe: 2022-23 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 6 juin 2022
Publié: 6 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I already understand that Bruins fans will tell me it's too much and that Scheifele doesn't fit the Bruins mold, and Jets fans will say the deal doesn't happen without Carlo or Lysell.
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WPG
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Studnicka, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
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6 juin 2022 à 12 h 44
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I just don’t see why the Jets would trade a 1C for a likely late 1st, middle 6 winger who requested a trade, a 2nd, and a meh prospect
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6 juin 2022 à 12 h 51
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what happens when those guys come off ltir
6 juin 2022 à 12 h 56
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what happens when those guys come off ltir


Ask Vegas and Tampa Bay GMs.
6 juin 2022 à 12 h 57
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I think that’s a very fair pricetag for him, but i do think that Boston should look elsewhere. They don’t tend to like guys that disregard defensive responsibility.
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6 juin 2022 à 12 h 57
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Quoting: vr1995
what happens when those guys come off ltir


They're royally screwed cap wise.
6 juin 2022 à 12 h 58
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Winnipeg declines, they can get a far better offer than this for Mark Scheifele.
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6 juin 2022 à 12 h 58
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Ask Vegas and Tampa Bay GMs.


im asking you though, banking on injuries i guess
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 5
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I just don’t see why the Jets would trade a 1C for a likely late 1st, middle 6 winger who requested a trade, a 2nd, and a meh prospect

Well, few things here:
1. The trade request doesn’t matter in terms of value. Sweeney has made it clear that he’s not shipping him out if he doesn’t like the return, debrusk signed an extension and said he was okay staying there for the duration of it. It’s a non factor.
2. What more would they get? For the most part i agree with your assessment of hte package, though I would definitely call debrusk a top six winger rather than a middle six winger. Guys in their late 20s don’t get these transformative packages. First, second, top six 25 year old and a prospect is fine. You’re going to struggle to find instances of more being shipped out.
3. Is he really a number 1C? I guess it depends on the definition. He’s a good player, and ya, he puts up points, but holy hell is he a liability defensively.
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6 juin 2022 à 13 h 6
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what happens when those guys come off ltir

It actually fits really well. All are expected to miss at least 25% of the season. Plenty of room.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 14
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Winnipeg declines, they can get a far better offer than this for Mark Scheifele.


"Far better" would be surprising given that he's close to 30 and a liability defensively.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 16
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The Jets aren't trading Scheifele for a pile of nothing. The only piece with any significant value is the late first and that isn't close to enough.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 17
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im asking you though, banking on injuries i

Waiving Brown and Ahcan and sending Mclaughlin down would require at most an additional $2M to clear.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 19
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Quoting: Windjammer
The Jets aren't trading Scheifele for a pile of nothing. The only piece with any significant value is the late first and that isn't close to enough.


Already acknowledged that Jets fans would say something like that in the description. I think Jets fans overestimate what the return would be.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 19
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
"Far better" would be surprising given that he's close to 30 and a liability defensively.


He still gets a better offer than DeBrusk, Studnicka and a late 1st and 2nd round pick.
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6 juin 2022 à 13 h 19
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They're royally screwed cap wise.


How? Under the cap by a country mile.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 20
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
He still gets a better offer than Debrusk, Studnicka and a late 1st and 2nd round pick.

Find an instance of a similar player getting moved for more than that. Anyone will do.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 20
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im asking you though, banking on injuries i guess

They already have the injuries….
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 24
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
Already acknowledged that Jets fans would say something like that in the description. I think Jets fans overestimate what the return would be.


I’m not a jets fan. Don’t see how that gets a 1C with term. Not close really.
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6 juin 2022 à 13 h 26
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I’m not a jets fan. Don’t see how that gets a 1C with term. Not close really.


Either way. Statement still stands, minus the Jets fan.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 31
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
Already acknowledged that Jets fans would say something like that in the description. I think Jets fans overestimate what the return would be.


It's more like Bruins fans overestimate what a player that has requested a trade and a bust will get them. All fans think they can get an impact player for their disappointing throw away scraps though, so you're not alone.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 33
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How? Under the cap by a country mile.


Really? Not at that current cap space you're not. $15,728,749- Charlie McAvoy $9,500,000+Brad Marchand $6,125,000 and Matt Grzelcyk $3,687,500 = 19,312,500

$15,728,749-19,312,500= -$3,583,751

You have a deficit of $3,583,751 when all are off LTIR That's hardly under the cap ny a country mile
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 39
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Really? Not at that current cap space you're not. $15,728,749- Charlie McAvoy $9,500,000+Brad Marchand $6,125,000 and Matt Grzelcyk $3,687,500 = 19,312,500

$15,728,749-19,312,500= -$3,583,751

You have a deficit of $3,583,751 when all are off LTIR That's hardly under the cap ny a country mile


They’re all expected to miss a quarter of the season+. Multiply that 19M number by .75 an try again.
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6 juin 2022 à 13 h 40
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It's more like Bruins fans overestimate what a player that has requested a trade and a bust will get them. All fans think they can get an impact player for their disappointing throw away scraps though, so you're not alone.


Look at the Eichel trade. This proposal is very similar and Eichel had more value than Scheifele.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 42
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Really? Not at that current cap space you're not. $15,728,749- Charlie McAvoy $9,500,000+Brad Marchand $6,125,000 and Matt Grzelcyk $3,687,500 = 19,312,500

$15,728,749-19,312,500= -$3,583,751

You have a deficit of $3,583,751 when all are off LTIR That's hardly under the cap ny a country mile


You're also not taking into consideration the cap hits of players that will be removed from the roster after those 3 players return.
6 juin 2022 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
They’re all expected to miss a quarter of the season+. Multiply that 19M number by .75 an try again.


On what planet? They're all 6 month recovery times. I don't know about you. but that comes to late November early December hardly 1/4 of the season.

And FYI that only eats real money not the cap hit which still remains the same.
 
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