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If OEL Myers and Miller were traded

Créé par: Angusc
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 1 mai 2022
Publié: 1 mai 2022
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Since this my first time, I played around the possibility of what our team would look like if we successfully traded our 3 players in OEL, Myers, and Miller. I know these are unpopular decisions, but I look at this team right now and it has so many flaws right now. It needs cap space (as our blue line is expensive) and more picks/prospects. Also, our prospect pool is substandard. So I only focused on those two areas.

Reasonings behind my main decisions:

OEL to Boston:
Before coming to the Canucks, he also preferred Boston as a second choice. Since Jake Debrusk wants a team change, he comes to the Canucks with a pick and OEL goes to Boston (we could retain half his salary depending on circumstances.)

Myers to the Flyers or any other team that has more cap space:
Again, his contract is too expensive and we get 2 picks for him. The price may be high, but we remove cap space and get picks. This is dependent on how Fletcher would see Myers in terms of his value.

JT Miller for Shea, Whitecloud, Brisson, 2 1st round picks:
Since we traded OEL, we are missing our blue line pieces. Vegas likes to gamble big with bringing in stars, so we trade Miller and we get Theodore and Whitecloud alongside a prospect and 2 1st rounders (may seem too much but the player is high quality). Theodore and Whitecloud combined are cheaper than OEL and Myers and are younger, as Theodore is 27 and Whitecloud is 25. They also have more points as well. Also, we get a decent prospect and 2 high picks.

We sign Boeser to a reasonable deal and get picks from the players we traded based on their values.

In the end, we would have a decent amount of cap space to use as a weapon for the 2023 off season (to use to help cap strapped teams while getting additional picks in return). That way, we would have more picks than before.

Again, the reason why I focus on picks, prospects and cap space in this thread is because we make up for how we gave up lots of futures from our past GM and partly our ownership since he ultimately runs this team too and he wants playoffs for revenue.

What are your thoughts
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1 mai 2022 à 7 h 15
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I can't see anyone taking OEL's contract and retaining a sizeable amount of money would be a waste given how tight against the cap the team will be for the next few years
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1 mai 2022 à 7 h 27
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That Miller trade is actually hilarious
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1 mai 2022 à 7 h 57
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Bruins don't need OEL, we just signed Lindholm long-term to be pur 1LD
1 mai 2022 à 8 h 17
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Theodore is worth more than Miller alone. Not to mention that Whitecloud has good value being a cheap top 4 right handed defence option, & then you want a top prospect AND multiple 1st round picks for Miller?! … that’s a McDavid type return. Not JT Miller.
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1 mai 2022 à 9 h 46
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Debrusk has way more value than OEL.

That miller trade is a joke.
1 mai 2022 à 9 h 53
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Yeah I don’t think Miller is even worth Theodore. So that sums up the rest of the trade.
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1 mai 2022 à 10 h 20
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Welcome to CapFriendly. Since you welcomed comments......well, you weren't very cap friendly to the other teams. Myers may not be worth his contract so teams aren't giving back just picks for him...maybe another 6m player(s). Or CBJ could y9u that 6m and sign a UFA, and not give up anything.
No reason for Arizona to take on Poolman, if he isn't worth his contract. Maybe if the Canucks gave the Coyotes a third
Bruins don't need OEL, and certainly want his long term cap.
Certainly that's a massive overpay for Vegas. Miller is just a one year rental as he is a UFA of the end of the season
Moral of the story. There is a big difference between "on ice value" compared to "trade value". Contract $$$$ and term mean so much as do other teams cap.
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1 mai 2022 à 13 h 28
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Welcome to CF, and welcome to the criticism train.
OEL has no appreciable value to another team with his contract.
One year of JT Miller doesn’t net you anything remotely close to that package. Miller is a really good player, but he isn’t an elite best player on top Stanley cup contender.
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1 mai 2022 à 13 h 33
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Vegas declines
1 mai 2022 à 14 h 54
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Welcome to CapFriendly. Since you welcomed comments......well, you weren't very cap friendly to the other teams. Myers may not be worth his contract so teams aren't giving back just picks for him...maybe another 6m player(s). Or CBJ could y9u that 6m and sign a UFA, and not give up anything.
No reason for Arizona to take on Poolman, if he isn't worth his contract. Maybe if the Canucks gave the Coyotes a third
Bruins don't need OEL, and certainly want his long term cap.
Certainly that's a massive overpay for Vegas. Miller is just a one year rental as he is a UFA of the end of the season
Moral of the story. There is a big difference between "on ice value" compared to "trade value". Contract $$$$ and term mean so much as do other teams cap.


Now that I think about OEL's contract, I do agree with you about him being in Boston. If that was the case, then OEL's contract may be really hard to trade to another team with that cap and term. Other than that, personally, getting OEL in was a bad move considering there are many other cheaper options to replace him. If we let the 3 bad contracts in Beagle, Eriksson and Roussell go, we would have saved 12 million.

For Poolman, I thought about what we could get for him and giving them a 3rd does balance it out.

For the Miller trade, I thought about what we could get out of him if we got OEL off the books and how valuable he would be. It does seem too much now that I look at it. If it was Whitecloud, Brisson, and a 2023 or 2024 1st, then it may be a bad trade than expected.

My reasoning behind creating this list is because again the team needs more picks, prospects, and cap space to make up for our past GM's mistakes. He set us back for at least 3 years with his moves.

Also, I'll think about other team's cap situation/value of contracts/players more next time I create another one thanks.
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1 mai 2022 à 14 h 59
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Theodore is worth more than Miller alone. Not to mention that Whitecloud has good value being a cheap top 4 right handed defence option, & then you want a top prospect AND multiple 1st round picks for Miller?! … that’s a McDavid type return. Not JT Miller.


Now that I look at it, I agree with you. What do you think if the team has Whitecloud, Brisson, and a 2023 1st, along with another 2nd round pick to balance it out. That way, we get a right hand defenceman that we're lacking, a prospect, and picks.
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1 mai 2022 à 18 h 25
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Now that I look at it, I agree with you. What do you think if the team has Whitecloud, Brisson, and a 2023 1st, along with another 2nd round pick to balance it out. That way, we get a right hand defenceman that we're lacking, a prospect, and picks.


Vegas can’t afford Miller
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1 mai 2022 à 23 h 59
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Boston doesn't need OEL after just signing Lindholm, And your totally delusional Miller doesn't get anywhere close to that kind of offer. besides Vegas can't afford him long term anyways.
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PHI declines
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