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Créé par: NHLfan10506

Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey

Date de création initiale: 30 avr. 2022

Publié: 30 avr. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Tried to do an off-season using only moves where there are applicable comps. None are perfect apples-to-apples. Open to suggestions for better comps if available.

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Contract comps (RFAs)

Bratt:
Ehlers (2018): $6,000,000 x 7 years
Nylander (2018): $6,962,366 x 6 years

Mangiapane:
Buchnevich (2021): $5,800,000 x 4 years
Teravainen (2019): $5,400,000 x 5 years

Wood:
Foegele (2021): $2,750,000 x 3 years
McGinn (2021): $2,750,000 x 4 years

Contract comps (UFAs)

Nichushkin:
Iaffalo (2021): $4,000,000 x 4 years
Bjorkstrand (2021): $5,400,000 x 5 years

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Bratt, Jesper	7	6 500 000 $
Wood, Miles	2	2 800 000 $
Boqvist, Jesper	2	970 000 $
Thompson, Tyce	2	800 000 $
Mangiapane, Andrew	5	5 500 000 $
Samsonov, Ilya	4	3 750 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Nichushkin, Valeri		4	4 750 000 $

Transactions

NJD

Roy, Matt

LAK

Zetterlund, Fabian [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NJD)

Détails additionnels:

Similar to Graves trade last year.

GAR/60
Graves (2019-21) +.29
Roy (2020-22) +.24

No expansion draft, so Kings get a better prospect. Pick is #69 (was #61 in Graves deal)

NJD

Mangiapane, Andrew [Droits de RFA]

CGY

Kuokkanen, Janne
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)

Détails additionnels:

Similar to Buchnevich trade last year

GAR/60
Buch (2019-21) +.60
Mang (2020-22) +.58
Blais (2019-21) +.13
Kuok (2020-22) +.16

PPG
Buch (2019-21) 0.77
Mang (2020-22) 0.64
Blais (2019-21) 0.37
Kuok (2020-22) 0.39

Like Rangers last year, Flames will have some key names to re-sign this off-season. Calgary is getting a younger, better player who is on slightly higher contract ($1.8m vs $1.5m). They are also getting a better pick (#37 vs #56).

NJD

Niederbach, Theodor [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WSH)

DET

Zacha, Pavel [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

Similar to Sam Bennett trade last year (Heineman + 2nd) between CGY and FLA

GAR/60
Bennett (2015-21) +0.03
Zacha (2015-22) +0.08

PPG
Bennett (2014-21) 0.38
Zacha (2015-22) 0.46

Like Zacha, Bennett was former top-10 pick and pending RFA that could play center or wing. At time of deal, Bennett was career 0.38 ppg player in a 0.32 ppg season (Zacha is career 0.46 ppg player in 0.51 ppg season). Like Niederbach, Heineman was recent 2nd round pick playing in Sweden.

NJD

Samsonov, Ilya [Droits de RFA]

WSH

Misyul, Daniil [Liste de réserve]
Thompson, Tyce

Détails additionnels:

Similar to Jaroslav Halak trade in 2010 (Lars Eller and Ian Schultz)

Save %
Halak (2008-10): 0.921
Sam (2020-22): 0.902

GAA
Halak (2008-10): 2.56
Sam (2020-22): 2.81

Eller was a 21y forward prospect (#3 on Blues list at the time) who had been coming off a 0.81 ppg season in AHL (Tyce was 0.87 this year in partial season). Schultz was the Blues 17th ranked prospect at the time and long-shot to make NHL. Habs likely got the better prospect package, but were sending a goalie with better track record.

Rachats de contrats

Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $

Frais appliqués

Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	80 319 167 $	0 $	1 782 500 $	2 180 833 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Sharangovich, Yegor 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Hughes, Jack 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C UFA - 8	Mercer, Dawson 894 167 $894 167 $ (400 000 $$400K) AD, C RFA - 2
Mangiapane, Andrew 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3	Hischier, Nico 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ C UFA - 5	Bratt, Jesper 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Holtz, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 3	Boqvist, Jesper 970 000 $970 000 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Nichushkin, Valeri 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 8
	McLeod, Michael 975 000 $975 000 $ C RFA - 1
Wood, Miles 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ AG UFA - 1		Bastian, Nathan 825 000 $825 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Siegenthaler, Jonas 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Severson, Damon 4 166 666 $4 166 666 $ DD UFA - 1	Blackwood, Mackenzie 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan 3 166 667 $3 166 667 $ DG UFA - 1	Hamilton, Dougie 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6
Okhotiuk, Nikita 789 167 $789 167 $ (132 500 $$132K) DG RFA - 2	Roy, Matt 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Samsonov, Ilya 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ G UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Smith, Ty 863 333 $863 333 $ (400 000 $$400K) DG/DD RFA - 1		Bernier, Jonathan 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ G UFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Tatar, Tomas 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Foote, Nolan 863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG RFA - 2
Walsh, Reilly 925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD UFA - 1
Bahl, Kevin 795 000 $795 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 1
Daws, Nico 850 833 $850 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) G RFA - 2

30 avr. 2022 à 21 h 52

Gmonwy

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No thanks from Calgary

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30 avr. 2022 à 21 h 59

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the buchnevich trade is universally regarded as one of the worst trades in recent memory, both before and after the trade, why would you use that as a comparable lol

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30 avr. 2022 à 22 h 7

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Everyone and their dog knows the Rangers got fleeced in that trade, do not use it as a base deal.

Easy no for the Flames

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30 avr. 2022 à 22 h 16

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: Alfie11

the buchnevich trade is universally regarded as one of the worst trades in recent memory, both before and after the trade, why would you use that as a comparable lol

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Everyone and their dog knows the Rangers got fleeced in that trade, do not use it as a base deal.

Easy no for the Flames

Give me a better comp to use and I’ll use it.
But it’s still what sets the market.
Can use the Reinhart deal as well.
Or Arvidsson. Or Burakovsky.

Wingers are usually cheaper in real life than ACGM

(also salary cap can distort value…but if Calgary is letting Gaudreau walk, it changes things)

30 avr. 2022 à 22 h 20

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Detroit passes, No need for Zacha.

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30 avr. 2022 à 22 h 21

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Modifié 30 avr. 2022 à 22 h 36

On the Zacha trade there is a big difference in the comp. One it was a trade deadline deal that increases the cost of a player generally and second FLA is a competitive team in the middle of push for a cup. Neither of these things are present in the deal here.

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30 avr. 2022 à 22 h 33

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Well thought out and your valuation of Zacha is fine, but I don't see a fit in Detroit.

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30 avr. 2022 à 22 h 43

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What would be comparisons you would use for Boeser, Garland, and/or Bratt trades (I know Bratt is unlikely but he was in some rumours at the deadline for some reason)

I assume something similar to Buchnevich/Reinhart? Although I haven’t done the research you’ve done here (which is quite a lot)

1 mai 2022 à 0 h 29

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Quoting: mv21227

Frank Seravalli made up the rumor about Bratt on deadline day. GM Fitzgerald said he is having talks with Bratt about a new contract now that the season is over

Boeser fits with the Reinhart, Buchnevich comparable

Not sure about Garland. It’s uncommon we see a player with that much term get traded one year into his deal

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1 mai 2022 à 1 h 9

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Quoting: Devil

Yeah I fully don’t expect Bratt to get traded, just wonder what his comparable would be

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1 mai 2022 à 3 h 1

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Arvidsson is much older and Reinhart was on record saying he would not sign long term in Buffalo
Burakovsky was traded as a struggling young player.

I would want something similar to Mantha at least

1 mai 2022 à 16 h 1

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Wings have no use for Zacha, terrible trade for them

1 mai 2022 à 18 h 0

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Quoting: mv21227

Yeah I fully don’t expect Bratt to get traded, just wonder what his comparable would be

The only reason I would see NJD moving him is if they cannot sign him long-term (or at reasonable $$). Wouldn’t be a cap move. So I would think Sam Reinhart would be pretty close (sounded like Reinhart was only willing to take 1-year deals in Buffalo so he go to UFA quicker).

1 mai 2022 à 18 h 13

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Arvidsson is much older and Reinhart was on record saying he would not sign long term in Buffalo
Burakovsky was traded as a struggling young player.

I would want something similar to Mantha at least

Caps got fleeced in Caps deal. Was clear at time. Still clear now. Flames may ask for that, but few would offer in off-season.

90% said Detroit won Mantha trade

Also, Mantha was a deadline deal and was under contract for 4 years. Mangiapane will be an RFA.

And if Flames move him, it would be to make space for Gaudreau and Tkachuk, no? So maybe futures and ELCs only going back. They’d probably end up with something that looks more like JT Miller to VAN deal.

1 mai 2022 à 21 h 5

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

You dont move guys like Mangiapane to do that, especially when you have guys like Lucic and Monahan you can move instead

1 mai 2022 à 22 h 14

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

You dont move guys like Mangiapane to do that, especially when you have guys like Lucic and Monahan you can move instead

Not many teams would want Lucic or Monahan.
I’d imagine the latter is a buyout candidate if he is not LTIR’ed.

If they get Gaudreau and Tkachuk to take discounts, that would be ideal.

1 mai 2022 à 22 h 40

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Not many teams would want Lucic or Monahan.
I’d imagine the latter is a buyout candidate if he is not LTIR’ed.

If they get Gaudreau and Tkachuk to take discounts, that would be ideal.

I disagree on Looch, quite a few teams would probably be interested in him. Anaheim definitely comes to mind there.

As for Monahan he's very low risk high reward. Centers are always a premium

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