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A Bunch of CBJ Maybes

Créé par: dopplsan
Équipe: 2022-23 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 6 avr. 2022
Publié: 19 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Just a collection of various CBJ related trades I've seen over the course of the past weeks/months. Put a few I liked together to see how things could look.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
2925 000 $
3925 000 $
2925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
2950 000 $
21 000 000 $
12 500 000 $
1850 000 $
1850 000 $
1850 000 $
1850 000 $
58 500 000 $
1950 000 $
1950 000 $
11 050 000 $
Transactions
1.
CBJ
  1. Bellows, Kieffer [Droits de RFA]
  2. Mayfield, Scott
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. Bemström, Emil
  3. Texier, Alexandre
Détails additionnels:
Still not convinced there is much to the Tex trade rumors, but I've seen a variation of this trade a few times and was intrigued.
2.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
Playoff Protected
LAK
  1. Nyquist, Gustav (2 750 000 $ retained)
3.
CBJ
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
CBJ buy Dads out. he gets 2/3 of his contract's last year and UFA to chase a cup; CBJ buy a 2nd.
4.
CBJ
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
At worst, C depth and a pick swap. At best, roll the dice on a rebound.
CGY
  1. Stenlund, Kevin
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
CGY get to dump cap, move on from Monahan. Stenlund is a solid B4 F, can play PP2.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CHI
Logo de NYI
Logo de CBJ
Logo de TBL
Logo de CBJ
Logo de TOR
Logo de ANA
2023
Logo de CBJ
Logo de LAK
Logo de CBJ
Logo de NYI
Logo de CGY
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
2024
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de VGK
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $73 662 500 $0 $1 550 000 $8 837 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance700 000 $$700K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
850 000 $850 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
9 583 333 $9 583 333 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
787 500 $787 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
975 000 $975 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2

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19 avr. 2022 à 10 h 0
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I think the isles trade is alittle Rich for their taste. They’d probably want to keep one of mayfield or the first. But at that point the jackets wouldn’t have much use for the trade.
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Quoting: The_Cannon
I think the isles trade is alittle Rich for their taste. They’d probably want to keep one of mayfield or the first. But at that point the jackets wouldn’t have much use for the trade.


Agreed. The Isles could certainly use those 3, but at the same time none are worth a lotto pick to them (IMO).

If I'm the Isles, I'd probably consider moving Mayfield for pick(s) and or prospect(s), but I don't think you move him, along with a lotto pick, and a 2nd (and Bellows...meh...) unless it's a package for a solid upgrade.
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19 avr. 2022 à 10 h 27
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Isles trade just doesn't fit Lamoriello's MO at all. Bermstrom & Texier have great potential but if they're trading out Mayfield *and* top picks, they're going to be looking for more established talent, like Gavrikov or Roslovic (not saying that those guys are options to be traded, just illustrating the level of player Lou would be looking for if trading his biggest assets).
19 avr. 2022 à 10 h 33
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Remove the 2nd and Flames may accept
19 avr. 2022 à 10 h 43
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Remove the 2nd and Flames may accept


I mean, I'll roll the dice on a Monahan rebound; but that is a lot of cap/ salary to take on for a prayer. Ergo, why I did the pick-swap.

Quoting: Lenny7
Agreed. The Isles could certainly use those 3, but at the same time none are worth a lotto pick to them (IMO).

If I'm the Isles, I'd probably consider moving Mayfield for pick(s) and or prospect(s), but I don't think you move him, along with a lotto pick, and a 2nd (and Bellows...meh...) unless it's a package for a solid upgrade.


Quoting: dannibalcorpse
Isles trade just doesn't fit Lamoriello's MO at all. Bermstrom & Texier have great potential but if they're trading out Mayfield *and* top picks, they're going to be looking for more established talent, like Gavrikov or Roslovic (not saying that those guys are options to be traded, just illustrating the level of player Lou would be looking for if trading his biggest assets).


Again, this was a trade I actually saw once or twice a few weeks back, so I'm just cribbing from another NYI fan who put it together.

I'd be willing to take out Mayfield. I'm hoping CBJ are able to get Zadorov or Gustafsson in UFA. Plus, that 2022 is *technically* a lotto pick, but it's also likely in No Man's Land (i.e. 12-16).

Either way, appreciate the feedback!
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19 avr. 2022 à 10 h 54
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I mean, I'll roll the dice on a Monahan rebound; but that is a lot of cap/ salary to take on for a prayer. Ergo, why I did the pick-swap.


20 teams in the league would roll the dice on him if they were getting a 2nd along with it. 1 year at 6M for a player with 7/9 20+ goal season and the only 2 years he didnt reach that he had major hip surgeries is really not as much of a risk as you make it put to be.

Most GM's tend to have longer memories than people on this site. Remember when everyone here said Josh Anderson would only return a 3rd because he only had 1 goal and 4 points in 26 games?
19 avr. 2022 à 11 h 3
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Again, this was a trade I actually saw once or twice a few weeks back, so I'm just cribbing from another NYI fan who put it together.

I'd be willing to take out Mayfield. I'm hoping CBJ are able to get Zadorov or Gustafsson in UFA. Plus, that 2022 is *technically* a lotto pick, but it's also likely in No Man's Land (i.e. 12-16).

Either way, appreciate the feedback!


If the trade as you have it here happened, I wouldn't be mad at Lou, per se, just think it's a little rich to give up for what they're getting back. Without Mayfield, I think it evens it out more - there's a good shot Bermstrom & Texier develop into nice pieces and I'd deal with Jake Bean's contract to get the Islanders to be younger. I also just think it's not really a deal Lou does - if he moves a higher pick, it's for a proven veteran (see the Kyle Palmieri & Travis Zajac trades.)
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19 avr. 2022 à 11 h 9
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Pyyhtiä is staying in Finland for next season
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19 avr. 2022 à 11 h 25
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20 teams in the league would roll the dice on him if they were getting a 2nd along with it. 1 year at 6M for a player with 7/9 20+ goal season and the only 2 years he didnt reach that he had major hip surgeries is really not as much of a risk as you make it put to be.

Most GM's tend to have longer memories than people on this site. Remember when everyone here said Josh Anderson would only return a 3rd because he only had 1 goal and 4 points in 26 games?


And Joshy ended up returning *two* 3rd rounds picks.

And I tend to disagree with GM memories...If a GM is taking on the contract of a guy like Monahan because they are wholly convinced it is still 2017, then that is a bad sign. I mean, why is CGY looking to move him in the first place? Plus, we're looking at AZ having just gotten a 2nd for taking on 1.5 seasons of Ritchie at less than half of what Monahan makes.

And wait, Monahan is now on his second season of games lost due major hip surgery? Wouldn't that be the definition of risk?

It doesn't have to necessarily be a pick-swap up to a 2nd. I'm just saying I'd look for some sort of value add for taking on Monahan's contract. Most teams in the league, CBJ especially, won't particularly take on a $6.375 cap hit/ $6M salary for nothing.
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19 avr. 2022 à 11 h 33
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I can't see Los Angeles trading a first-round draft pick for a rental, and I see absolutely no need for Nyquist on the Kings in particular.
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Pyyhtiä is staying in Finland for next season


Noted.

Kid is looking to be an interesting prospect.
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I can't see Los Angeles trading a first-round draft pick for a rental, and I see absolutely no need for Nyquist on the Kings in particular.


Got it. I looked up team needs, and saw LA was noted as needing wingers. Figured there might be a fit there.

I'm not a fan of doing the "Traded to Any Team" thing.
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Got it. I looked up team needs, and saw LA was noted as needing wingers. Figured there might be a fit there.

I'm not a fan of doing the "Traded to Any Team" thing.


I'm in agreement on about 95% of your posts, and you're one of my two go-to guys on the Blue Jackets, so this one kinda surprised me a little.

Our primary need is at LD (Werenski is one of our wet dreams), and our secondary maybe-wanna is a young future top-6 RW.
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And Joshy ended up returning *two* 3rd rounds picks.

And I tend to disagree with GM memories...If a GM is taking on the contract of a guy like Monahan because they are wholly convinced it is still 2017, then that is a bad sign. I mean, why is CGY looking to move him in the first place? Plus, we're looking at AZ having just gotten a 2nd for taking on 1.5 seasons of Ritchie at less than half of what Monahan makes.

And wait, Monahan is now on his second season of games lost due major hip surgery? Wouldn't that be the definition of risk?

It doesn't have to necessarily be a pick-swap up to a 2nd. I'm just saying I'd look for some sort of value add for taking on Monahan's contract. Most teams in the league, CBJ especially, won't particularly take on a $6.375 cap hit/ $6M salary for nothing.


Thats not how that works, just because you only got a "3rd" for Domi 2 years later does not mean that's what he was traded for initially. Thats like saying Panarin was only traded for a 3rd

That Ritchie comparison is something else lmao. Conveniently ignoring both Lyubushkin and Dzingel in the deal.

What risk? You are getting a guy who could very possibly bounce back to a 25+ goal 60 point player for almost nothing. And if he does you can cash out big at the deadline, of he doesn't you lost a non-roster player.

Also his 2nd hip surgery is because the first one overcorrected causing the other hip to have issues. This is a very common thing with hip surgery
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I'm in agreement on about 95% of your posts, and you're one of my two go-to guys on the Blue Jackets, so this one kinda surprised me a little.

Our primary need is at LD (Werenski is one of our wet dreams), and our secondary maybe-wanna is a young future top-6 RW.


Got it, got it. And thank you for the compliment.

So I should take a website like this with a grain of salt haha
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19 avr. 2022 à 12 h 9
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Thats not how that works, just because you only got a "3rd" for Domi 2 years later does not mean that's what he was traded for initially. Thats like saying Panarin was only traded for a 3rd

That Ritchie comparison is something else lmao. Conveniently ignoring both Lyubushkin and Dzingel in the deal.

What risk? You are getting a guy who could very possibly bounce back to a 25+ goal 60 point player for almost nothing. And if he does you can cash out big at the deadline, of he doesn't you lost a non-roster player.

Also his 2nd hip surgery is because the first one overcorrected causing the other hip to have issues. This is a very common thing with hip surgery


That was a joke re: Anderson.

Dzingel was added for roster purposes... and was immediately waived? And I mean, good on TOR for getting a solid depth D-man out of the trade, but I'm not sure I'd characterize "D-Man who can play" as the big get for TOR from the Ritchie trade.

And I get wanting to focus a lot on what Monahan was 3-4 years ago; but, "could very possibly" is just a fancy way of saying "maybe" considering what his past three seasons have looked like for Sean. And as much as I want to dream of taking Monahan on, having him score 35 goals, and be flipped at the deadline for a big ol' package of goods, that in all likelihood isn't going to happen.

My impetus for taking on Monahan is (1) He is a true C, which CBJ need; (2) I think he could fill in the middle-six, and possible help out a developing Cole Sillinger; (3) CGY seems to be in enough of a cap situation that I could get value in taking on his contract; and, (4) yeah, sure, maybe he finds his magical touch and becomes 2017 Sam Gagner 2.0 for CBJ.
 
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