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Hellebuyck

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 7 avr. 2022
Publié: 7 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The Hellebuyck trade is the point of the post. The others are just fillers.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
77 250 000 $
32 750 000 $
2900 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 042 $
1800 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Mann, Strauss
2925 000 $
Livingstone, Jake
2925 000 $
Petman, Ville
21 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Daws, Nico
  2. Foote, Nolan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Based on Cory Schneider 2013 trade (plus a couple of prospects). Pick is currently #4 overall.
2.
NJD
  1. Biondi, Blake [Liste de réserve]
  2. Farrell, Sean [Liste de réserve]
MTL
  1. Pytlik, Jaromir [Liste de réserve]
  2. Zacha, Pavel [Droits de RFA]
3.
4.
NJD
  1. Smith, Nathan [Liste de réserve]
Rachats de contrats
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $70 452 917 $0 $1 732 500 $12 047 083 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 456 250 $1 456 250 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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975 000 $975 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 2
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3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 1
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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800 000 $800 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Petman, Ville
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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850 833 $850 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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850 833 $850 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
RFA - 2
Livingstone, Jake
925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)

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8 avr. 2022 à 0 h 24
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Quoting: Opie
Not a bad idea ... look at Comrie this season. NJ could have used him for a spell in here


Or Wedgewood
8 avr. 2022 à 0 h 34
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Switch walsh for pytlick and habs add 3rd
8 avr. 2022 à 2 h 43
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It really depends on the direction the team decides to go but if we were to trade him, excellent offer.
8 avr. 2022 à 7 h 21
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You’re insane if you think the Habs would give up Farrell for zacha
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8 avr. 2022 à 7 h 42
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I like that daws, I think devils should commit to a tandem of Blackwood and daws, but I’m a jets fan and that trade peaks my interest especially if Daws ready to possibly commit longterm. We would have to include some other guys though if helly is moved, there would be a bit of a retool younger, with jets moving on from Schmidt, demelo, and Dillon. Scheifele would be dealt also, wheeler possibly but not retained or given away. Patience devils fan, a little retool of blueline and some experience up front and your tending will look much better.
8 avr. 2022 à 9 h 4
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Modifié 8 avr. 2022 à 9 h 49
Quoting: NHLfan10506
Schneider’s three seasons prior to trade

2010-11: .929 - 2.23
2011-12: .937 - 1.96
2012-13: .927 - 2.11

Hellebuyck’s last three seasons

2019-20: .922 - 2.57
2020-21: .916 - 2.58
2021-22: .912 - 2.91

Difference is Hellebuyck is a workhorse and has Vezina. Schneider was splitting his starts and had a Jennings trophy.

Offer a better comp. Otherwise, zip it.


Goals saved above expected.

Hellebuyck
2019-20: 24.2 (rank 1)
2020-21: 19.1 (rank 1)
2021-22: 18.1 (rank 8)

Schneider
2010-11: 18.1 (rank 6)
2011-12: 17.0 (rank 5)
2012-13: 6.4 (rank 13)

In any event, Cheveldayoff isn't trying to fire himself by trading Hellebuyck. The letter by the owner to season ticket holders suggest they are still going for it.
8 avr. 2022 à 9 h 36
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Value wise is looks pretty good, needs wise, I think the Jets might prefer a right shot winger or defenseman instead of Foote.
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8 avr. 2022 à 10 h 56
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Come back with that Hellebuyck offer in a year.

If next season isn't an improvement from this year, and the team doesn't go to the WCF then it's possible Helle says he won't re-sign, then a trade would happen.

The Jets aren't rebuilding yet.

But to me, that's a very good offer for him.
8 avr. 2022 à 12 h 43
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Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
Goals saved above expected.

Hellebuyck
2019-20: 24.2 (rank 1)
2020-21: 19.1 (rank 1)
2021-22: 18.1 (rank 8)

Schneider
2010-11: 18.1 (rank 6)
2011-12: 17.0 (rank 5)
2012-13: 6.4 (rank 13)

In any event, Cheveldayoff isn't trying to fire himself by trading Hellebuyck. The letter by the owner to season ticket holders suggest they are still going for it.


Rather unfortunate that you failed to take into account games played here.
Obviously Helly is gonna have much higher GSAx if he's playing 15-25 more games than Schneider did.
The Helly / Schneids comp gets even better if you switch from cumulative GSAx to a standardised rate ie GSAx/60.

GSAx/60

Helly
19-20: 0.38
20-21: 0.29
21-22: 0.1

Schneids
10-11: 0.61
11-12: 0.27
12-13: 0.15
8 avr. 2022 à 13 h 23
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Kind of the response I expected. If he is made available, I don’t think NJD flinches in offering their 1st.


As a Jets fan, you take out Foote and add in Bratt and I would accept right away.
8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 19
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Quoting: Benzino204
Come back with that Hellebuyck offer in a year.

If next season isn't an improvement from this year, and the team doesn't go to the WCF then it's possible Helle says he won't re-sign, then a trade would happen.

The Jets aren't rebuilding yet.

But to me, that's a very good offer for him.


We are not offering options here. If Hellebuyck declines over next year, the price would go down.

(By then, hope we will have found our G).

Quoting: Cory
As a Jets fan, you take out Foote and add in Bratt and I would accept right away.


Foote to Bratt is as big of a jump from Vesalainen to Ehlers.

Wouldn’t come with anything else.
8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 22
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Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
Goals saved above expected.

Hellebuyck
2019-20: 24.2 (rank 1)
2020-21: 19.1 (rank 1)
2021-22: 18.1 (rank 8)

Schneider
2010-11: 18.1 (rank 6)
2011-12: 17.0 (rank 5)
2012-13: 6.4 (rank 13)

In any event, Cheveldayoff isn't trying to fire himself by trading Hellebuyck. The letter by the owner to season ticket holders suggest they are still going for it.


Quoting: PaulieWalnuts
Rather unfortunate that you failed to take into account games played here.
Obviously Helly is gonna have much higher GSAx if he's playing 15-25 more games than Schneider did.
The Helly / Schneids comp gets even better if you switch from cumulative GSAx to a standardised rate ie GSAx/60.

GSAx/60

Helly
19-20: 0.38
20-21: 0.29
21-22: 0.1

Schneids
10-11: 0.61
11-12: 0.27
12-13: 0.15


The Schneider / Hellebuyck comp is a stretch, but made sense from Devils perspective since it was only other time we dealt 1st for goalie.

Never gonna be apples-to-apples
8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 24
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Quoting: JGDD11
You’re insane if you think the Habs would give up Farrell for zacha


Plus Biondi! And Habs get another Pytlik.
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8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 28
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Quoting: Birtle34
I like that daws, I think devils should commit to a tandem of Blackwood and daws, but I’m a jets fan and that trade peaks my interest especially if Daws ready to possibly commit longterm. We would have to include some other guys though if helly is moved, there would be a bit of a retool younger, with jets moving on from Schmidt, demelo, and Dillon. Scheifele would be dealt also, wheeler possibly but not retained or given away. Patience devils fan, a little retool of blueline and some experience up front and your tending will look much better.


Blackwood and Daws on paper looks good for future.

But just for context, Devils fans have been broken and beaten with the goaltending we have seen this year. We are desperate. The rest of the team is in pretty good shape. Still developing in some areas, but in track for being a young group.

I think we compete for a playoff spot next year with good goaltending (and good health).
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